Actors Worry That AI is Taking Centre Stage 110
A survey this year by Equity, the UK union for actors and other performing arts workers, found that 65 per cent of members thought AI posed a threat to employment opportunities in the sector, rising to 93 per cent of audio artists. This wasn't just an amorphous fear about the future: more than a third of members had seen job listings for work involving AI and almost a fifth had undertaken some of this work. From a report: A range of AI start-ups are developing tools for use in film and audio, from making actors look and sound younger to creating AI voices that can be used for marketing campaigns, consumer assistants or even audiobook narration. Audio is such a popular medium now that companies need lots of it, but human actors are expensive and nowhere near as flexible as an AI voice, which can be made to say anything at the push of a button. These companies typically hire actors to provide hours' worth of audio which can then be turned into a voice-for-hire.
VocaliD, for example, offers a range of voices such as "Malik" ("warm, soothing, urban") "Terri" ("educated, optimistic, sophisticated") and "AI Very British Voice" ("trustworthy, warm, calm.") Sonantic, another AI company which was just acquired by Spotify, creates voices that can laugh, shout or cry. Its voices are often used by video game companies in the production process so they can play around with different scripts. They're not as good as humans, but they don't need to be. Industry experts say no one is going to use AI to narrate the audiobook of a bestselling novel, but there is still a market to be tapped in the vast number of lower-profile books that are published or self-published every year. Audiobook.ai, for example, says it can create an audiobook in 10 minutes with 146 voices to choose from in 43 languages.
VocaliD, for example, offers a range of voices such as "Malik" ("warm, soothing, urban") "Terri" ("educated, optimistic, sophisticated") and "AI Very British Voice" ("trustworthy, warm, calm.") Sonantic, another AI company which was just acquired by Spotify, creates voices that can laugh, shout or cry. Its voices are often used by video game companies in the production process so they can play around with different scripts. They're not as good as humans, but they don't need to be. Industry experts say no one is going to use AI to narrate the audiobook of a bestselling novel, but there is still a market to be tapped in the vast number of lower-profile books that are published or self-published every year. Audiobook.ai, for example, says it can create an audiobook in 10 minutes with 146 voices to choose from in 43 languages.
There's enough training data (Score:5, Interesting)
With thousands of years of stories written and a solid hundred of stories committed to the visual medium... it's not a matter of discovering 'true AI' that can be creative.
Someone's going to sit down and reduce every story ever told, every facial expression ever made, every bit of vocal mannerism and body language to entries in a database. And they'll build a library of every line of dialog, every trope, every plot, type of setting, prop, and costume. OK, more likely it'll be teams of people working for decades, but still.
Eventually an expert system - a computerized flowchart - mixed with a bit of random number generation is going to be able to generate every story you could ever want to watch in your lifetime.
The basic stories we tell haven't changed since we started telling stories. There will be no room for a real creative person to shine, because the computer output will be more than good enough that the creative person will never get a foothold in the market, never get a chance to build their skill set.
Re:There's enough training data (Score:4)
It's no difference than running the seamstress or cobbler out of business. A mass produced shirt or shoe is good enough
or even better than one made from hand so practically no one is willing to pay for a hand sewn shirt or shoe anymore.
It's also similar to the reason that we keep seeing sequels. It's a low risk movie with an existing fan base that's almost guaranteed to produce a profit.
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CGI vs practical effects.
Green screen vs location shooting.
Getting it right in front of the camera vs cleaning it up in post.
Etc etc etc.
The world goes around the sun, things move on.
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I am afraid it will be seen as problem of surplus people.
Why do you think TPTB have been so casual about covid? They've got access to treatments we can't afford, and we are inconveniently many.
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People tend to forget that the reason we have a middle class isn't some divine right or moral superiority,.. we have a middle class because it generates more wealth than having only poor people.
We have a middle class because people fought and died for it. The idea that the ruling class wanted it to exist is not just dumb, it's revisionist.
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the middle class exists to give just enough people just enough quality of life to defend the system and suppress the revolution
If you look at revolutions, most revolutions are not started by the poor or even the middle class. Most revolutions are generally organized and financed by the "second sons" of society. It's the out of power and snubbed rich. George Washington, the leader of the American Revolution was the richest person in America at the time. You will find the same if you look at other revolutions. It's almost always the new out of power rich fighting the old entrenched rich. Or "A rich man's war but a poor man's fi
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I think we would just put a lot of effort into making it scarce. We do it already music, literature, movies are naturally free to copy, but all we seem to do is make copyright longer and invent ways to stop people sharing. For example you could lend your copy of a book, video game to your friend a before now you can't.
We will just make AI that hunts down people that dare consume that media without paying their tribute to the owner of the AI creator. We already do.
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Anyone who reads /. AC posts and makes that statement isn't thinking too deeply.
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They're afraid they won't get paid millions for playing make believe....
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It's no different than the screen actor putting theatre actors out of business.
It's no different than recording musicians putting live musicians out of business.
It is quite different from both of your examples. Both of them were examples of new jobs which were quite similar to the previous ones, allowing most people who were trained in the "old" job to be qualified for the new job. And both of them included new jobs which were not automated. A better example would be increased robotics affecting factory workers, but that wouldn't fit your narrative because in that case automation had a dramatic negative effect on employment.
This is something for the industry to be
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There are some real disadvantages to buying off the rack. Uniformity was a big part of the industrialization of clothing, and the step immediately before automation. For generations we've accepted ill-fitting clothing as being cheaper and more convenient. Although I'd argue we're not really saving all that much when a pair or name brand slacks or denim jeans costs over $60 and they are thrown away when they wear out because mending them is not practical without tailors and seamstresses on every corner.
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Or, you know, learning how to sew.
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it's a skill and as an amateur you can only go so far before you need to hire a professional to do it correctly.
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It's one thing to automate a single industry. It's something else entirely when the vast majority are unable to find gainful employment, in a society that requires payment for basic needs, because their skillsets aren't better than the computer that replaced them. You don't even have to automate every industry. Just enough of the jobs that a majority of people have. Or could realistically switch to before they miss three meals in a row. C
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For someone to win in a Capitalist society, someone else must lose.
This is only true if there is a fixed pie which there is not. To take just one example, automation in farming has caused the percentage of people working in agriculture to drop from around 70% of the population to around 2% of the population where the percentage of a family budget that is spent on food has went the opposite direction from 40% down to 10% or the budget. Yes, many farmers had to change occupations but everyone is now much richer and food is more plentiful because of it. The number of farme
Re: There's enough training data (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe actors can learn to code.
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Maybe actors can learn to code.
Even if they do, I don't think coding is itself safe from automation. We're already seeing automated/AI driven tools that generate software. Today the quality of generated code isn't too good, and the systems aren't yet general enough nor do they scale well (or at all). However, the process is just beginning, and I'm quite sure code writing AIs will become better and better - and maybe soon they'll be good enough. Keep in mind that "software developer" is one of the better paid jobs currently available, so
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Even if they do, I don't think coding is itself safe from automation.
We have automation in coding. It's called "libraries." Automation is literally why computers were invented.
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Today the quality of generated code isn't too good
The quality is good, however the usefulness is low. After all the code is made after a template a human sketched before.
but I believe they'll be the last generation of generalist human developers.
There always will be human developers, as the humans come up with the ideas for new opportunities, tasks, concepts.
You do not tell an AI: "look we have all those GPS satellites up there, they beam radio signals down to the surface of the planet. Those signals get sc
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> a computerized flowchart - mixed with a bit of random number generation is going to be able to generate every story you could ever want to watch in your lifetime.
So Marvel Studios, lol.
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He said WANT to watch.
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Sometimes there is something to be said for a mindless pew pew pew zot cgi extravaganza.
To be fair they have produced some good stuff along with the shit best forgotten.
Hint: don't see the latest Thor.
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Someone's going to sit down and reduce every story ever told, every facial expression ever made, every bit of vocal mannerism and body language to entries in a database. And they'll build a library of every line of dialog, every trope, every plot, type of setting, prop, and costume. OK, more likely it'll be teams of people working for decades, but still.
Eventually an expert system - a computerized flowchart - mixed with a bit of random number generation is going to be able to generate every story you could ever want to watch in your lifetime.
Not sure I agree with all that. The same thing was discussed when MIDI was introduced in the music scene. "If they can digitally produce every note with every instrument, who will pay for live musicians?" (paraphrased)
Since you hedged your prediction by putting it decades in the future, it's hard to argue specifics, but there are so many good books that are ripe for audio book versions but there is little financial incentive to do so. For example, I would love to have an audiobook of Heinlein's Caves of
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I grew up as a huge Foundation fan. The tv show was unwatchable.
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The same thing was discussed when MIDI was introduced in the music scene. "If they can digitally produce every note with every instrument, who will pay for live musicians?" (paraphrased)
Yeah, but MIDI doesn't do that on its own, so it was a silly concern at the time. You have to have an adequate MIDI instrument, and you have to program in all the little touches that a real musician adds, or it sounds canned on top of canned. And the very best MIDI instruments, while pretty good, still don't sound quite like the real thing.
Now a computer might actually able to do all that stuff without so much manual effort...
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It's called "Band In A Box" and it's over 30 years old now. It does not have to snap to a grid -- the actual timing in MIDI can be way off from the way it feels in the pocket. It even supports VST plugins directly so you don't have to export to DAW to get a backing track with modeled instruments rather than just samples. (I still do because the piano roll editor of BIAB is awful.) And for at least a decade now, they've i
Re: There's enough training data (Score:2)
The Caves of Steel was also written by Asimov though...
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You're right of course. I was thinking of adding two other examples, Citizen of the Galaxy and Stranger in a Strange Land, to the list, but left them out to be a bit more concise. When I did, it left Heinein as the author when obviously it should have been Asimov.
"I've found out why people laugh. They laugh because it hurts so much . . . because it's the only thing that'll make it stop hurting." -- Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
I grok my mistake.
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Asimov's Foundation was the inspiration for a series on Apple TV. I haven't seen it
You are lucky. It is an abomination and an offense to everything Foundation stood for. I'll give you a couple of brief examples, so you understand the depth of horror that is that show. You would NEVER guess it was Foundation if not for the names and the title. SPOILERS (to the show, not to the books) follow.
There are references to AI wars and the emperor having had public hangings of AI sympathizers. There continue to be public hangings with emperor in attendance.
R. Daneel Olivaw is a reprogrammed robot
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I'd invite you to read MORE Asimov, and the estate authorized books by other authors playing in Asimov's sandbox, and then throw every single one of your preconceptions in the trash, and try Apple's Foundation again. I'm a HUGE Asimov fan. And I loved the series. Asimov grew and changed as an author over time, and I think there's a lot of what we can see on the screen that might have been how he would have written some of it if he had had it to re-do toward the end of his life. There are hints of some of th
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read MORE Asimov ... throw every single one of your preconceptions in the trash
I'll admit that I have not read any of the works by other authors in the same universe. I wasn't even aware that existed, so thank you, I will look into it. But...
Asimov is the creator of the Three Laws of Robotics. And the very first of those laws is that a robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. It's a really important point, including several short stories that test the limits of such laws (including trying to tweak the very definition of "human", re
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I think we're going to find out - assuming that the series continues long enough - that the AI Wars "origin" for Demerzel is a lie, and that she is actually R. Daneel as we've known him/her/them, more or less. The 0th Law is why she is capable of doing those things to humans.
But if you think about it, humanity being aware of some sort of automatons / synthetic life would be inevitable: if we didn't have robots, which is how R. Daneel supposedly left it in Asimov's books, we'd have to invent them again! They
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There are some interesting legal issues here. Audiobook producers objected to eBook readers having text to speech built in, because even though it wasn't very good, eBooks cost a small fraction of what audiobooks cost.
With an AI adding some flair to the reading it could be as good, or very nearly, as a human actor reading it.
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Nope. This is one of the thinks that people unfamiliar with computers think will work, but do not. You misunderstand what makes a good story. And are not familiar with what chatbots do when exposed to all the internet data (turn into racists meme machines).
They need a very fine balance of predictability and a culturally specific surprises. Worse, the fine balance AND the cultural specific surprises change every 20 years. What makes a true classic is to hit both just perfectly while predicting the cul
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I suspect the bar is pretty low for making a profitable and entertaining story. Hollywood has been following formulas for a very long time. And people have been writing about how to write stories and plays for many centuries. Some stories don't really change much and we still follow some traditions that can be tied back to antiquity. And of course there is a continuity. Just as the Greeks influenced Shakespeare, Shakespeare influenced later generations, and so on.
Generally speaking if you have action and a
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For stories, it's already been done 127 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
There was also some standard generic movie script going around ten years ago or so, that listed the timestamps and events of a boilerplate action movie. It came with a list of then current action movies that followed it pretty much precisely, give or take a fe
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There was also some standard generic movie script going around ten years ago or so, that listed the timestamps and events of a boilerplate action movie. It came with a list of then current action movies that followed it pretty much precisely, give or take a few minutes or additional/missing scenes. I can't find it any more, but it was both depressing and hilarious how many movies were following that standard script.
I believe you're looking for Blake Snyder's [wikipedia.org] "Save the Cat [amazon.com]". In that book he lists plot points, and when he felt they should occur (which he called "Beats [nofilmschool.com]"). I'm not going to list any titles, but quite a few movies blatantly followed this guideline. .
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I have no doubt that neutral networks, deep learning, and other technology under the heading of A.I. will soon be able to go through the technical aspects of film making and even script writing. But it is a machine, working off data produced by humans. We have to wonder if it is art, does the machine have anything to express or is it a cut and paste of prior work?
No doubt the results will entertain, either conventionally or as a sort of meta-entertainment. What is telling is that most AI produced material i
Good for RPGs (Score:5, Interesting)
Over the past two decades, having voice acting became one of the biggest limiting factors in delivering triple A RPGs. So having AI be able to replace human actors could make it a lot more accessible for smaller devs to build experiences comparable with the big studios.
In addition, it could allow a return of a degree of iteration in building games that voice acting simply made impossible. Once you know you need voice actors for all dialogue in a game, you can no longer go back and tweak and edit missions as needed over the course of development. You now need all quest design and dialogue frozen at some point.
In practice, games getting voiced dialogue also meant that they usually just had a ton less dialogue than their unvoiced predecessors had. I remember playing Oblivion after having sunk hundreds of hours into Morrowind- it was very jarring how much more limited dialogue was in comparison due to the voice acting requirement.
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Will still take a lot of annotation cleanup, even with inference from text.
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I'd like to see AI voices and even AI generated lines that are situationally aware in video games. One of the reasons why lines often sound so bad in games is that they don't account for what is actually happening at the time, or the player's reaction.
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"I was a voice actor like you, but then I took an arrow to the windpipe."
No great loss (Score:1)
The entertainment industry isn't really a field where most people can reliably make a living anyway. Check back with the other Stranger Things kids who are not named "Wolfhard" in 10 years, if you want to see what I mean.
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the entertainment industry generates billions of dollars in revenue and profit. People will once again turn against no-story CGI-fests and want special effects and real people.
Dude. No. The most popular programming is reality TV, which features fake as fuck people doing fake as fuck things, and yet they call it reality. The average person is not at all going to turn against any of that shit. They will embrace it like a lost lover.
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The fake people on reality TV are, nevertheless, not computer generated images. Unless you really want to argue that point.
Some don't like overly quantified music already (Score:5, Interesting)
There are a lot of people who don't like modern music recordings because they are over-processed and quantified so there are no errors in rhythm or notes. I personally think it is one of the reason that 30 to 40 plus year old albums are in reality dominating music sales still. People like to hear real people sounding like real people, warts, mistakes, and all. I saw an interview with Billie Eilish recently where she was showing David Letterman how her songs could actually be several hundred overdubs sliced and cut into the song before she and her brother are done with it. It isn't a natural recording, and it sounds like it. Persionally I also don't like the lack of interesting chord changes etc in modern recordings compared to before. Songs have become oversimplified. But that is another story. I think people like the sound of real people. The Let It Be sessions is a good example of how good music can be when it is recorded as a real band playing the music together in a studio.
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People like to hear real people sounding like real people, warts, mistakes, and all.
If that is what people want, an AI can be trained to create it.
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https://interestingengineering... [interestin...eering.com] They found that people imagining themselves in isolation preferred music reminding them of a time when they were aged between 10 and 30. They were are most likely to choose music that reminded them of an important person or an important turning point in their life. The researchers speculated these were ways for the individuals t
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They found that people imagining themselves in isolation preferred music reminding them of a time when they were aged between 10 and 30...the most frequent reason for choosing a song (17%) was that it reminded the guest of their relationship with a specific person
It's worth mentioning that most songs are written to appeal to people in that age group, and the lyrics are almost always about relationships. So once you're married or settled down romantically, you are outside the target audience for most music written today.
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There are a lot of people who don't like modern music recordings because they are over-processed and quantified so there are no errors in rhythm or notes.
Give it a few more years and they'll all be dead.
Re:Some don't like overly quantified music already (Score:5, Interesting)
Many of the people who l have met who like older music are under 30, and many under 20. And I ask them why they listen to older music, and it is usually the same answer: it isn't over-processed, and it doesn't all sound the same as every other musician being hyped these days. I know there has to be a lot of good new musicians out there, who actually play music on things that aren't computers, but we just don't get to hear them for some reason.
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The problem with anecdotes....
Take a look at the music charts. It's almost all new music. The first one that popped up in Google for me had an Elton John song, but it's just remixed samples with Dua Lipa. Down a ways a Metallica song that's only on the chart because it was in Stranger Things.
Re:...overly quantified music, a reaction someday? (Score:2)
I sometimes think, or hope, that there will be a new demand for live performance, not just music but acting, live theater. done on a human scale.
I don't know what the scene is like now but I suppose it is still true that most of us are first exposed to live theater in high school productions. As for music, do the young still go to clubs with live bands where people get out and dance. I'm old enough to remember the 'disco scene' of the 70s. But it wasn't all disco. There were live bands too, where musici
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There are a lot of people who don't like modern music recordings because they are over-processed and quantified so there are no errors in rhythm or notes. I personally think it is one of the reason that 30 to 40 plus year old albums are in reality dominating music sales still. People like to hear real people sounding like real people, warts, mistakes, and all. I saw an interview with Billie Eilish recently where she was showing David Letterman how her songs could actually be several hundred overdubs sliced and cut into the song before she and her brother are done with it. It isn't a natural recording, and it sounds like it. Persionally I also don't like the lack of interesting chord changes etc in modern recordings compared to before. Songs have become oversimplified. But that is another story. I think people like the sound of real people. The Let It Be sessions is a good example of how good music can be when it is recorded as a real band playing the music together in a studio.
The song "About a Girl" on Nirvana's Muddy Banks album infamously involves Cobain dropping a note in the intro. I almost prefer that version to the original studio recorded one.
It really has been tested that modern music contains less variation and fewer notes than music from 30 years ago.... And the song I mentioned, About a Girl, is one of the simplest guitar songs you'll ever learn.
With the way music is made now, a lot of "artists" can't reproduce it so live concerts are just the "artist" miming al
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Persionally I also don't like the lack of interesting chord changes etc in modern recordings compared to before.
This has been the complaint about pop music for over a century. Over the last few decades, pop music has gotten more interesting harmonically.
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Some genres sound best when everything is snapped to a grid and then each instrument tweaked slightly ahead or behind to create the pocket, but a pocket that never changes. Others sound best when the timing is allowed to be a bit sloppy and unpredictable on at least some of the instruments. Like one of the Pretenders said, "we lay down our tracks so they're squeaky clean, and then Chrissy comes in and makes everything the right amount of sloppy".
It's because of unions (Score:4, Interesting)
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Oh a youtuber....oh with only 400k subscribers since 2019, I watch "small" woodworking channels with 4.75x as many subs, let us know what they say when they stop being an ass sucking joke
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Dummy mods. That wasn't redundant. It was insightful and informative and funny.
Bring on the sock puppets!
I can't wait until the only people still here are me and 36 sock puppets but at least I'll always get first post.
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You can't replace actors with software and save money yet, only masses of extras. The effort of getting a grade A performance out of software winds up costing more than just hiring a competent actor. CGI is used to accomplish effects that aren't cost effective in other ways, not to replace actors. It only makes sense to replace an actor with CG if they're dead, and your script is shitty enough that this becomes your selling point.
Um... They already did (Score:2)
Yeah they can't replace the actors in The talky scenes, but I'll never be able to do that because the point of Hollywood is the Stars and the gossip and the wish fulfillment of the Stars living the lives you wish you could. Nobody watches Tom Cruise for his acting chops. You watched Tom Cruise because you wish you were him or you wish you were fucking him.
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She-Hulk is CGI in the fight scenes. That means fewer stunts and one less Union stunt woman.
Maybe. Or more likely, there's a union stunt woman in a mocap outfit. Motion is still super duper hard to get right in software.
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the CGI is often terrible and or worse than the stuff you saw in the 90s.
What
I have a thought... (Score:2)
Become Actors... Otherwise, if you simply want to read something aloud, volunteer at the local library.
Talent? (Score:2)
I can see why they're worried; only those with real talent will be employable going forward.
That has to be worrisome.
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What they want is actors that people will pay to see. It doesn't matter if they can act. If that means humans, they'll keep hiring humans. If not, so much the better for them. Lots of the most popular actors aren't that great at acting. They just have a pretty, symmetrical face.
AI already learned to stay away from Chuck Norris (Score:2)
The workout that Chuck Norris was using to train the AI models turned out to be too hard to comprehend.
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Chuck Norris kicked AI so hard it will always be 20 years in the future.
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Did Chuck also kick fusion, flying cars, jet packs and non-scammy crypto?
Checked out VocaliD (Score:2)
Okay, well, their sales target isn't acting roles - it's voiceover patter where quality doesn't matter, and it's easily spotted as robotic. It's not really acting, unless you consider what Vanna White did on Wheel of Fortune to be "acting". I doubt Tara Strong is running scared just yet.
I have no doubt the day is coming when digital actors are "normal", and eventually unrecognizable as such to the casual media consumer. But we're not there yet.
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Much better for business (Score:3)
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never have private life scandals
Who knows.
Perhaps you like to read "Idoru" - ru stands for the latin letter L, as Japanese uses the same letters to represent L's and R's. In proper english, the word is "Idol", a novel by W. Gibbson, I believe. It is a triology, so I don't remember which/what is happening in which part.
AI stand-up comedy (Score:5, Funny)
So, an AI walks into a bar.
The bartender says "why the long face?"
The AI answers: "how does it make you feel that the long face?"
It's their own fault (Score:2)
They overdid it a little bit with the 'intellectual' property spiel, so the business people invented their own intelligence.
They'll go the way of the dodo and entertainment will get cheaper for all of us.
Why can't they just (Score:2)
Leave political opinions to the AIs (Score:1)
Instead of these overpaid-people-whose-sole-talent-is-to-pretend-to-be-someone-else pronouncing on politcial and social issues on which they have no experience or insight, could AIs be used to do that ?
Indeed (Score:1)
live performances' revenge (Score:4, Insightful)
Performers who acted for films were undercutting their fellow thespians ability to earn a paycheck through stage performances. Now those actors are suffering at the hands of technological innovation and the live performers are having their laugh.
S1m0ne - movie on the topic (Score:3)
Go live (Score:2)
Theater is still a thing.
Youtube Videos (Score:2)
There are many MANY Youtube videos that appear to use AI voices for the narration. Usually they're pretty good, not nearly the misinterpretations and miswording that subtitles often get. But the droning, repetitive tone will drive you mad after a while.
Different industry, same story. (Score:2)
Everyone is always fine with further automation, until it comes for THEIR job.
Now it's Hollywood's turn to feel the churn.
Remember? (Score:2)
Remember when voice actors demanded a union and higher pay just a few years ago? ...will naturally evolve to: Remember voice actors?
And let's be honest: does anyone really believe that an AAA actor is worth $35 million for a single performance in a film? They certainly work hard, no doubt. (And then they have all that insurance in case they shoot the cameraperson...) But do they work harder than a teacher? Than an oil rig worker?
If a studio can get 90% of the performance from an AI-run simulacrum that co
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We are building a house on a foundation of sand by so thoroughly integrating technology into so many aspects of our lives. There is currently a sunspot so large it is changing the way the sun vibrates. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news... [msn.com]. A sunspot that big is not that unusual but a solar storm of sufficient strength to set society back a hundred years will happen someday and who would you want for a neighbor, Max Headroom or
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Hey, I'm 100% with you.
I live in the exurbs of Minneapolis, and have a father in law with a remote lake cabin in the hinterlands of MN north that could be entirely off-grid with very little work.
I've even reviewed with my adult children how they can navigate there if all the cars die. It'd be a hike - it's about 60 hours walk according to google and that's not avoiding all the places you'd definitely want to avoid in those circumstances. Call it a week of SERE hiking.
And, to be blunt, the northwoods is th
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Lots of people have Plan B for lots of things, but no Plan B for total loss of power and infrastructure. I don't spend much time thinking about or planning for that but I do have somewhat of a Plan B. I read Forstchen's book and it got me off my tail!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
About time! (Score:1)
Yesterday I stumbled over this (Score:2)
By coincidence: https://www.heise.de/hintergru... [heise.de]
The article is in German but the AI "enhanced" movie is easy to spot. I guess with google translate you might get it into a passable english.
Or google: Glenn Marshall, "The Crow"