'Blade Runner 2099' Series Greenlighted By Amazon With Ridley Scott Executive Producing (deadline.com) 150
Blade Runner 2099, Amazon Studios' live-action series set in the Blade Runner universe, has been picked up to series for Prime Video. From a report: Ridley Scott, who directed the original 1982 Blade Runner movie, is executive producing the series, a follow-up to the feature film sequel Blade Runner 2049, which was released in 2017 and directed by Denis Villeneuve. Silka Luisa (Shining Girls) wrote the script and is exec producing Blade Runner 2099, which comes from Alcon Entertainment in association with Scott Free Productions and Amazon Studios. The project, which marks the first Blade Runner live-action series, had been in priority development at Amazon Studios.
"The original Blade Runner, directed by Ridley Scott, is considered one of the greatest and most influential science-fiction movies of all time, and we're excited to introduce Blade Runner 2099 to our global Prime Video customers," said Vernon Sanders, head of global television, Amazon Studios. "We are honored to be able to present this continuation of the Blade Runner franchise, and are confident that by teaming up with Ridley, Alcon Entertainment, Scott Free Productions, and the remarkably talented Silka Luisa, Blade Runner 2099 will uphold the intellect, themes, and spirit of its film predecessors." As indicated by Blade Runner 2099's title, the latest installment of the neo-noir sci-fi franchise will be set 50 years after the 2017 film sequel, which was set in 2049.
"The original Blade Runner, directed by Ridley Scott, is considered one of the greatest and most influential science-fiction movies of all time, and we're excited to introduce Blade Runner 2099 to our global Prime Video customers," said Vernon Sanders, head of global television, Amazon Studios. "We are honored to be able to present this continuation of the Blade Runner franchise, and are confident that by teaming up with Ridley, Alcon Entertainment, Scott Free Productions, and the remarkably talented Silka Luisa, Blade Runner 2099 will uphold the intellect, themes, and spirit of its film predecessors." As indicated by Blade Runner 2099's title, the latest installment of the neo-noir sci-fi franchise will be set 50 years after the 2017 film sequel, which was set in 2049.
They could settle a debate... (Score:2)
...by having Harrison Ford play Decker again.
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That's hilarious - I assume you're talking to the argument that Decker was a replicant? Was that debate not settled by him playing Decker again in 2049 - 30 years after the events of Blade Runner (which happened in 2019...)
Re:They could settle a debate... (Score:4, Insightful)
You just have to read the book to know he wasn't.
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Huh? How can you be certain of anything in a Philip K Dick novel? He had severe reservations regarding reality and levels of alienation which intentionally made who was what murky
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Cool story, but a different story. The Scott himself is on the record as saying Decker is a replicant and that he even tried to make that obvious on the directors cut. What someone else wrote in a book is irrelevant.
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Possibly, I mean the original was quite ambiguous but it may have been under duress as well. Scott is on the record as saying the studio forced him to cut several scenes which make the link far clearer. That's the whole point of the changes to the Director's Cut, and the Final Cut. The unicorns.
The fact that Deckard dreams of unicorns (and its symbolism).
More importantly the fact that Gaff *knows* Deckard dreams of unicorns (leaving behind the origami unicorn at the end for Deckard to find), implying that G
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The other thing the director's cut did was get rid of the awful voice overs that the studio made them record. Scott said he wanted those long emp
So I guess... (Score:4, Funny)
...they fire the lighting guy on day one as well?
Not even remotely interested in seeing another one (Score:5, Insightful)
I liked Blade Runner. I didn't mind Blade Runner 2049. I didn't really enjoy it all that much either. It was around that time I decided to not watch anymore sequels and that's worked out pretty well for me so far. I don't want to see another Blade Runner.... Alien, Predator, Star Wars, Star Trek, and so on. I'm tired of the studios being locked into the same 6-10 franchises and forever returning to them like they're a sure thing. The only way this stops is if we stop rewarding them for keeping these properties on life support.
Re:Not even remotely interested in seeing another (Score:4, Interesting)
I very much enjoy(ed) The Orville. It's indeed possible to keep a franchise alive and well, IF it's done right. Star Wars has material for dozens of movies and series as well. The problem is contemporary movie industry trends.
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The Orville: more Trek than the latest Star Trek.
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I have to agree.
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The Orville is okay, but it kinda proves that going in a slightly new direction was the right move for Trek.
The first two seasons of The Orville were a lot like TNG. Tame and uncontroversial. Some interesting ideas but they get resolved in a way that preserves the status quo and doesn't say anything very interesting. Season 3 took a few cues from the new Trek shows, and the Original Series, and was a lot better for it.
That's what this Blade Runner series needs. A new direction that builds on the movies but
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The new season of the Orville was a preach fest. It was heavy-handed with "THE MESSAGE" because, clearly, nobody watching sci-fi in the year 2022 gets that the world right now is a disaster and we're only making it worse. So much for escapism in sci-fi.
I don't really mind serious sci-fi, but taking a somewhat spoofy comedy and turning it into a preachy, bitchy serious show? Not the greatest move in my opinion. I think there was a lot of room between where they were and where they went, and they missed the m
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The latest Orville season is way too serious now. I liked how the last seasons had potty humor mixed in with classic Trek and good stories. The first episode is about suicide and artificial life forms. It has a laugh or two but nothing like before.
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(walking Onion article here)
I have not "watched" TV for over 30 years. The commercials... they kill me.
I heard about "The Orville" a few weeks ago and I was excited to see it. I like some of Seth McFarlane's other properties such as Family Guy and American Dad. It is quite apparent that the man is incredibly smart and has some amount of sobriety.
I dunno man, The Orville just isn't doing it for me. I watched a few episodes and they were mostly good, but it felt like something was being pushed on me. I am not
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To be fair, the second Alien and Terminator movies were as good as the first ones.
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I see Alien and Terminator as mood/feel/tension movies, which adds fear when introducing the alien/T-1000, while their sequels are action movies where we already know how bad the antagonists are.
In Alien, we barely see the alien for much of the movie, only the gruesome death of its victims. Only at the end do we see it completely, and it's even more horrifying because we've been stressed the whole movie about it.
The same thing is true for Terminator, because for most of the movie, we only see Arnold with so
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Terminator is a bit relentl
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Yeah, I never really got that concept... imo more along the lines of :
The exceptions that prove the rule is broken
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The thing is that people can provide an endless series of sequels, and you can continue to mutter, "proves the rooole, proooves the rooooole" all you want , and it just seems like you just picked a slippery slope to take your last stand on
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In earlier English, "prove" meant "to test", as in "proving grounds" or
"the proof of the pudding is in the eating".
So, the the existance of an exception to a rule demonstrates
that the general rule cannot be relied upon.
If you think about it, how would the failure of a rule make
it more likely to be correct?
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I I'm tired of the studios being locked into the same 6-10 franchises and forever returning to them like they're a sure thing. The only way this stops is if we stop rewarding them for keeping these properties on life support.
It's funny, but the modern studios are really conservative, and few want to make OC.
For one reason or another, modern writing is abysmal. They can't create. But they do deconstruct.
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I'm tired of the studios being locked into the same 6-10 franchises and forever returning to them like they're a sure thing.
It's almost like you're completely oblivious the literal hundreds of movies which are released every year. Studios aren't "locked into" anything. They are releasing sequels along side of a metric fuckton of other movies. Don't like em, there's plenty out there if you choose to go look.
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No thanks. I'll keep my memories of the OG movie (Score:2, Informative)
No thanks. Not interested in Yet Another Remake. I'll keep my memories of the original.
But here's something that may interest cartoon nerds:
Matt Groening let it slip that both Futurama and Disenchantment have episodes in-production as of Sep 9.
yes, I like Disenchantment. A lot more than I do a re-hashed movie or series written by people with a very different agenda from the original creator.
"Comicbook.com's own Jamie Jirak was in attendance at the D23 panel focusing on The Simpsons, wherein the creators
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Tyrell: We began to recognize in them a strange obsession. After all, they are emotionally inexperienced, with only a few years in which to store up the experiences which you and I take for granted. If we gift them with a past, we create a cushion or a pillow for their emotions, and consequently, we can control them better.
Deckard: Memories! You're talking about memories!
2070 (Score:2)
It would be amusing to see this be a sequel to Total Recall 2070 which, while technically a sequel to Total Recall, was also trying real hard to follow up on Blade Runner.
Will they have say over content? (Score:5, Funny)
It'll be interesting to see how the trend of Amazon series depicting corporate power as inevitable and basically unstoppable collides with a Blade Runner storyline...
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True, not an Amazon production though.
Re:Will they have say over content? (Score:5, Informative)
They basically removed all criticism of the system
No, they just wrote the criticism subtly for a more intelligent audience unlike the Stallone version which was an utter garbage movie full of spoon feeding.
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Generic SF with a "Blade Runner" label? (Score:4, Interesting)
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lately I'm watching stuff by John Ford and Wiley and that generation
WYLER.... not Wiley.. how did I get the Coyote into this..*facepalm*
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lately I'm watching stuff by John Ford and Wiley and that generation
WYLER.... not Wiley.. how did I get the Coyote into this..*facepalm*
Hah! Wife and I were just discussing him yesterday. The Coyote was a true role model. He persevered in the face of almost certain failure and injury, never giving up.
And to boot, he was an unquestioned master of trompe l'oeil art. No one painted a tunnel as well as he could.
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Don't forget Hitchcock....talk about a master!!
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Don't forget Hitchcock....talk about a master!!
Yup - Hitchcock knew how to keep the audience riveted. Prolific as well.
I try not to narrow it down to favorite films and all, but Kubrick made a good film or two. My favorite of all time is "Doctor Strangelove". Granted, the flying shots of the B-52 are not so good by today's standard's, but otherwise, pure gold.
My biggest question is what happened to James Earl Jones' voice later on in life.
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I try not to narrow it down to favorite films and all, but Kubrick made a good film or two. My favorite of all time is "Doctor Strangelove". Granted, the flying shots of the B-52 are not so good by today's standard's, but otherwise, pure gold.
Kubrick made many excellent films, I even saw one of his very first in some "theater" in Miami (really a hastily-converted auditorium) -- that may have been a student film of his. Already you could see elements that'd end up in Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket
Speaking of Strangelove, the opening footage of air refueling was stock footage, and the B-52 shots were just models. . I can forgive such cheesery, if the story triumphs -- and boy howdy did it do that in Strangelove.
Hitchcock and the German Express
Those Darn Replicants! (Score:2)
Because I can't believe that after 80 years they wouldn't have come to some sort of solution for the "replicant problem". One way or another.
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The original blade runner (Score:2)
Zombie Franchises (Score:2)
2049 was shit and this will be worse.
Hollywood just feeds on the corpses of dead creators.
Like Yoko Ono.
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Awesome! (Score:2)
I am so stoked to have another one or two off escape into another world, turned into a endless universe that only stops when the money ends. I am far more tolerant of a TV show, comic, or even a series of books being turned into movies, than movies going the other way. Especially if there's only one of them, movies are there to tell a big story, the other mediums mentioned are small stories every week or so, and when they get a long or 2 part or even movie it seems so much more special.
What's a blade runner
Please get it right. (Score:2)
What the guy really meant (Score:2)
"The original Blade Runner, directed by Ridley Scott, is considered one of the greatest and most influential science-fiction movies of all time, and we're excited to introduce Blade Runner 2099 to our global Prime Video customers," said Vernon Sanders, head of global television, Amazon Studios
To:
The original Blade Runner was an outstanding success. And now that we are completely out of any even half-decent original ideas, we plan to milk that success, again. Even though the last time we did that, we lost $80million. [movieweb.com]
Spam, spaam, spaaam, spaaaam, spaaaam, ham, spam (Score:2)
Rehash the hash again. How about coming up with something new again? Hollywood is putrid with rot.
Hope it's better (Score:2)
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Nope.
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Yes, it did, albeit in a different manner. The optics were fantastic along with the subtle music score.
Quite well, I thought. (Score:2)
No, it wasn't a direct sequel with the same writers and directors, but IMHO it was a very good followup, with an aesthetic that was actually more unabashedly (albeit modernized) Neuromancer than the original. Then again, Ridley Scott very deliberately turned away from that lest he be accused of copying, seeing as how the book came out pretty shortly before the movie.
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No, it wasn't a direct sequel with the same writers and directors, but IMHO it was a very good followup, with an aesthetic that was actually more unabashedly (albeit modernized) Neuromancer than the original. Then again, Ridley Scott very deliberately turned away from that lest he be accused of copying, seeing as how the book came out pretty shortly before the movie.
I too am a long time Blade Runner fan.... however I was pleasantly surprised by how good the sequel was. I was initially against watching it until a flight from Frankfurt to Bogota with very little else on the IFE and was very pleasantly surprised by the fact the film was good. It followed the same themes as the original Blade Runner without being a direct sequel. It was more of a film set in the same universe than a direct sequel.
It wasn't as good as the original blade runner, but that is a masterpiece
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I distinctly disliked 2049 the first time I saw it. Second time I was a bit more meh. it needed about twice as much plot.
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No wonder Nicolas Cage wanted to get away from there.
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Who are "these people"?
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Wait!
If "they" are "them", then "us" includes DesScorp?
I'll take a hard pass
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Let's play Spin The Wheel and see what conservatives are blaming today! Will it be:
Illegal immigrants Leftists Trans people Gay people A sentence containing the word "woke" Democrats But Obama
Wheel says! Trans people. Thanks for playing!
Speaking a Jew, I'm deeply offended to be left off this list.
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Let's play Spin The Wheel and see what conservatives are blaming today! Will it be:
Speaking a Jew, I'm deeply offended to be left off this list.
Ah, I see the problem here. If you were included they'd have to make it Spin The Dreidel.
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Who are "these people"?
Well, contextually, you'd have to assume "wokies".
Then again, the ambiguity presents an excellent opportunity to insinuate all kinds of horrible things, if that's more your style than a good faith discussion.
Re:You're wrong... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Does casting a black person for the role really detract that much from the story?
There can only be one way to tell a story and if it's not the right way, it's garbage. Full stop.
Besides, it's not as if mermaids were ever near Africa [wikipedia.org] so there can't be any black mermaids.
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There can only be one way to tell a story
Your full of bullshit.
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There can only be one way to tell a story and if it's not the right way, it's garbage. Full stop.
If that's true, then making Ariel black would be the least offensive change Disney has made to the story of The Little Mermaid.
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I suspect people are mad about the implied message that it's bad to be white.
Maybe, though personally I don't think that applies in this case. I certainly don't think my childhood memories got wrecked by casting a black woman for the role this time, I never thought race really played a big role in this particular story. If it was a sequel with a black mermaid where she was white before, I'd agree, that would be weird.
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So...
Johnny Depp playing a Native American, fine.
Ra's al Ghul race swapped to be white, no problem.
Tilda Swinton playing a Caucasian Ancient one, okay.
Elizabeth Olsen as the formerly Romani Scarlet Witch, that worked.
Black actress playing Ariel the mermaid, white people are being "pushed out"!
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You're so caught up on race that you missed the GP's core point. All of the people you list were introduced to film audiences as unique IP. Tilda Swinton was the ancient one. The only ancient one. 99.99% of people didn't know who the ancient one was before they saw Tilda Swinton, and a few comic book people get upset. Now if you decided today to have Tilda Swinton be recast by a Chinese person, audiences would be upset because you've changed *what they know*.
No one gives a shit about what they don't know. M
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Oh right, so the most important thing here is upsetting people who are ignorant. Not the fact that the relatively few opportunities for non-white actors get given to white ones for... reasons...
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You seem to be looking for a fight. I am not posting about what is right or wrong, my thread was speculation about why the reactions are so strong. I did advise a way of maintaining profitability and furthering an agenda of greater minority race presence in popular media, but even that was just a practical means of achieving the goal (without judgment as to its righteousness).
The strategy of "tell the world they are evil racists" doesn't seem to be working, even when-and-where it is true. Actual racists
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So...
Johnny Depp playing a Native American, fine.
Ra's al Ghul race swapped to be white, no problem.
Tilda Swinton playing a Caucasian Ancient one, okay.
Elizabeth Olsen as the formerly Romani Scarlet Witch, that worked.
Black actress playing Ariel the mermaid, white people are being "pushed out"!
Well, no. Casting a bunch of Brits, with obvious accents, as the God of Egypt or as Russians, in Enemy at the Gates, was equally cringe.
Re:You're wrong... (Score:4, Insightful)
I suspect people are mad about the implied message that it's bad to be white. Even if that isn't the intent, this widespread trend of race-swapping of prominent and established white characters is making people feel that whites are being aggressively "pushed out." It's going to create defensive reactions.
The thing is, claiming that "its bad to be white" is the intended message tells me more about you than what is wrong with the film. When a normal person hears that a fictional mermaid is being played by a black woman they think "thats nice" or maybe "I guess Hollywood is really out of ideas if they're remaking TLM"... Claiming they're trying to say "durrr white is baaaad" really tells me that is your philosophy, not the intended message of the film.
I don't think anyone got worked up over the all-black cast of Black Panther, and nobody minded the fact that Black Panther was a black superhero. That's because there was no race-swapping involved. Black Panther was black when the character was first introduced as new IP. Same with Luke Cage. Geordi La Forge. Shaft. Etc.
Make no mistake, people got worked up over Black Panther. They were, as they should always be, ignored.
If we are really interested in seeing a significant increase of minority race representation in popular fiction, introducing new IP along these lines is a great way to do it. The acceptance is much higher since nobody feels like their childhood memories are being wrecked. It might take a little more work, of course, since one must create a compelling narrative rather than just swipe one that has already been proven. But there are plenty of talented writers available who can achieve this.
If your point is that Hollywood is really out of ideas, hence re-hashing 30+ yr old cartoons is the best they've got then I'm right there with you.
However lets get some perspective. Some people are losing their shit because a black girl has been cast to play a fictional mermaid. Did these people lose their shit when Elizabeth Taylor (white) was cast to play Cleopatra (African) or when Mel Gibson was cast as Jesus... Are they upset that we still depict Jesus as white when he was in fact Arab? Of course not.
I reckon this film is going to tank primarily due to my first point.
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Let me highlight a few bits to add clarity:
Does that help? I was never claiming that there actually was such a message. I was speculating that people were hearing such a message (whether it is there
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The thing is, claiming that "its bad to be white" is the intended message tells me more about you than what is wrong with the film.
Are they upset that we still depict Jesus as white when he was in fact Arab?
Jesus was Arab? Lol. That tells me more about you and your whole argument, which you completely undermine with that statement. Regardless of the race of the actor, Jesus is always depicted as a Jew, because that is what he was.
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Oh my god, your disenfranchisement is sooo delicious
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It won't be another All-Grill Ghostbusters but another Black-Little Mermaid (where the sun UV light doesn't reach and fishes are even transparent due to lack of melanine).
Do you really give a shit about science, now, all the sudden, when one detail of a movie that concerns itself with half-fish people suddenly changes?
Re:You're wrong... (Score:5, Interesting)
The problem isn't thinking the problem is genitalia. The problem is not understanding franchises are based on a psychologically impossible promise: delivering a perfectly repeatable experience indefinitely.
What investors want is a sure thing, a cash cow they can milk until the end of time. So any successful project or series of small projects inevitably attracts investors attempting to build a cash cow franchise based on it. Then they're faced with a dilemma. You can't do *too* much of the same thing, but you can't do too much of a *different* thing. You need to find the sweet spot: same thing, but just different enough.
The reason they re-did Ghostbusters with women is that's an obvious way to do the same thing, only different. It wasn't to make a statement about gender (although many projects that use this gambit do posture that way), it was mindless tinkering with the formula without really understanding it. The reason the went off the rails isn't that they made this very superficial change , the problem is that they changed something *very* important: they changed the audience surrogate character from the fun anarchic one who makes things happen to the nervous one who gets dragged into situations for comic effect. Again, it was mindless tinkering, but a fatal mistake if you want audiences to experience the story as *fun*.
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The problem isn't thinking the problem is genitalia. The problem is not understanding franchises are based on a psychologically impossible promise: delivering a perfectly repeatable experience indefinitely.
What investors want is a sure thing, a cash cow they can milk until the end of time. So any successful project or series of small projects inevitably attracts investors attempting to build a cash cow franchise based on it. Then they're faced with a dilemma. You can't do *too* much of the same thing, but you can't do too much of a *different* thing. You need to find the sweet spot: same thing, but just different enough.
The reason they re-did Ghostbusters with women is that's an obvious way to do the same thing, only different. It wasn't to make a statement about gender (although many projects that use this gambit do posture that way), it was mindless tinkering with the formula without really understanding it. The reason the went off the rails isn't that they made this very superficial change , the problem is that they changed something *very* important: they changed the audience surrogate character from the fun anarchic one who makes things happen to the nervous one who gets dragged into situations for comic effect. Again, it was mindless tinkering, but a fatal mistake if you want audiences to experience the story as *fun*.
A lot of not funny humor, and a lot of talking in that movie.
What the original Ghostbusters did, as you note was that fun anarchic characterization. We can talk about the interaction of the characters - certainly the Busters themselves had that chemistry. Murray and Akroyd are given a lot of credit, but they all played their parts. Ramis and Moranis brought a certain genius to their parts playing off of Murray. Even Hudson played his understated part well. Sigourney Weaver was spot on perfect (she's terr
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My problem with the Rings of Power right now is that it doesn't really have an authentic and personal point of view behind its writing. It is a contraption made to milk eyeball time from fans of the movie, who surely outnumber those who have read the book and legendarium. Insofar as it is a business venture and not a work of authentic and personal passion, it's bound to have a whiff of travesty about it. It's kind of pointless to criticize it for that, since it couldn't possibly be more.
I have no partic
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My problem with the Rings of Power right now is that it doesn't really have an authentic and personal point of view behind its writing. It is a contraption made to milk eyeball time from fans of the movie, who surely outnumber those who have read the book and legendarium. Insofar as it is a business venture and not a work of authentic and personal passion, it's bound to have a whiff of travesty about it. It's kind of pointless to criticize it for that, since it couldn't possibly be more.
It is of course impossible to please everyone, like some of the folks who criticised the LOTR Trilogy, or especially the attempt to turn the Hobbit into a trilogy. The novel wasn't designed to have three parts, so much was filler.
But they didn't mess with the universe. If it was Josie and the Pussycats and a movie was made about them opening a brothel in Las Vegas, it wouldn't matter too much. But the Middle Earth universe is well laid out.
I have no particular problems with warrior Galadriel; it is actually somewhat consistent with her character although translated (perhaps dumbed down) into terms that are cinematic -- concrete and viewable. In the legendarium she is a powerful and extremely ambitious person, and perhaps more than most Tolkien characters she actually has a kind of arc in which she goes from leaving Valinor seeking conquest and ultimately returns having learned humility. The nature of her powers are somewhat unexplained, but after the destruction of the One Ring she crossed the Anduin with a host and threw down Dol Guldur just with her own magic. So we can take it for granted her personal powers are immense -- similar to Glorfindel. The series actually downgrades her powers by making her a bad-ass fighter, so while that may not have been part of Tolkiens conception of her it's not actually inconsistent. Tolkien himself mentions in *Unfinished Tales* that she is extremely tall -- six feet four inches tall. That's almost as tall as the average WNBA center. Toliken also says she is unusually physically strong, and in some of the legendarium materials she fought in the kinslaying, although on the side of the Teleri.
The series naturally plays around with the timeline. The Galadriel we see is, perhaps, much more like she would have been at the Kinslaying as a young elf just 1200 years old.
There we go - real discussion! Fun, fo shizzle. I'm going to go
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If this thing is to be considered as canon
Of course it is to be considered canon. It's just not Tolkien's canon, since Tolkien passed away, and his son also passed away, and anyway their heirs sold the rights to a film and a series based on the appendices.
Just think of it as Amazon canon, based on Peter Jackson's canon, and a lot of the consistency problems melt away. The same thing as the Marvel Cinematic Universe's canon doesn't need to be consistent with the comic books, or Star Wars trilogy doesn't nee
Re:You're wrong... (Score:4, Insightful)
Or you can look at it this way: If fate had been kinder to him, Tolkien would have been a great compiler of English folkore, like Elias Lönnrot in Finland, Thomas Crofton Croker in Ireland, or the Brothers Grimm in Germany. But successive waves of invasion, linguistic and religious upheaval left England without much of an intact body of folklore to collect.
So he made up his own.
To really come to life, then, Middle Earth is going to have to pass into the public domain, so the stories can pass from storyteller to storyteller.
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To really come to life, then, Middle Earth is going to have to pass into the public domain, so the stories can pass from storyteller to storyteller.
Good insight. +1
Tolkien would have been a great compiler of English folkore
But he was a linguist, and he invented worlds so that he could explore how his made-up languages evolved. So he would have based his world in English folklore instead, but it would have been made up anyway.
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So if you take very straightforward disses, such as taking Galadriel of all people, the super chill super powerful uber-elf queen, and turn her into some sort of warrior princess, how does that fit in? Where the queen of the dwarves is very obviously a female, while very specifically dwarven women look virtually identical to the males as noted in the Two Towers:
Gimli: "It's true you don't see many dwarf women. And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance, that they are often mistaken for dwarf men."
Aragorn: "It's the beards."
Which is really unfortunate, considering Bruce Jenner has been waiting all his life for that role.
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The reason they re-did Ghostbusters with women is that's an obvious way to do the same thing, only different. It wasn't to make a statement about gender (although many projects that use this gambit do posture that way), it was mindless tinkering with the formula without really understanding it.
You're only half right. It is very possible to make a *good* film led by female roles. It is very possible to make a *good* film lighthearted comedy. It's also very good to make changes to characters. But that's not what this was. Ghostbusters went out of its way to write in stupid decisions and dialogue for the sole purpose of elevating women and making men a laughing stock.
That's the genitalia problem. The issue is it's unnatural, it's about as fun as being a woman and being talked over or mansplained to.
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You're only half right. It is very possible to make a *good* film led by female roles. It is very possible to make a *good* film lighthearted comedy. It's also very good to make changes to characters.
It exactly is possible. sex switching a lead, and watching that different lead take a different approach is fascinating, which is something these films fail miserably at.
If I might note, there are in fact, some differences between men and women, both physically and mentally. A male might resort to violence in a given situation, while a female might use her intelligence in that same situation. A cool comparison.
Yet especially in today's films, supposedly empowered women are demeaned into violence role
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The problem isn't thinking the problem is genitalia. The problem is not understanding franchises are based on a psychologically impossible promise: delivering a perfectly repeatable experience indefinitely.
What investors want is a sure thing, a cash cow they can milk until the end of time. So any successful project or series of small projects inevitably attracts investors attempting to build a cash cow franchise based on it. Then they're faced with a dilemma. You can't do *too* much of the same thing, but you can't do too much of a *different* thing. You need to find the sweet spot: same thing, but just different enough.
This. Hollywood isn't making a political statement, they're trying to make money and the white racist crowd isn't paying any more. The more they whinge that they wont pay money when a fictional character is played by a black woman the less they are going to be pandered to.
You're right however that they are just trying to do something different without actually coming up with new ideas. Which is why they're constantly doing remakes, Hollywood hasn't had an original idea since the Wrath of Khan. Whilst gen
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That presumes a genuine point of view, rather than one assumed for effect.
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Taking a lighthearted TV show, then movie, "Charlies Angels" and turning it into classic misandry ended up producing a true flop
I just wanna hear you list off your personal "classic misandry canon." Indulge me, please. I mean, hearing about how the female-led Ghostbusters is "about genitalia" would be fucking fascinating, too. I didn't see it. Are there a lot of genitals in the movie?
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Taking a lighthearted TV show, then movie, "Charlies Angels" and turning it into classic misandry ended up producing a true flop
I just wanna hear you list off your personal "classic misandry canon." Indulge me, please. I mean, hearing about how the female-led Ghostbusters is "about genitalia" would be fucking fascinating, too. I didn't see it. Are there a lot of genitals in the movie?
Well now, allow me to give you some of the comments regarding Ghostbusters 2016 and it's purpose. An essay should start things off. https://www.sezin.org/2016/09/... [sezin.org] Charmingly stated how the Ghostbusters 2016 Smashed the Patriarchy on proton blast at a time. Just a charming little setup to ease you into the meatus of the situation.
Paul Fegly declares hatred of women as the reason his Ghostbusters 2016 failed. And takes a potshot at how fathers caould dare griticise his creation https://www.theguardian. [theguardian.com]