Military Whistleblower Claims US Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin (thedebrief.org) 303
A former intelligence official turned whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, has provided extensive classified information to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General about covert programs involving the retrieval of intact and partially intact vehicles of non-human origin. Grusch alleges that this information has been illegally withheld from Congress, and he has filed a complaint claiming illegal retaliation for his disclosures. Other intelligence officials, both active and retired, have independently corroborated similar information about these programs. The Debrief reports: The whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, is a veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). He served as the reconnaissance office's representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA's co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force. The task force was established to investigate what were once called "unidentified flying objects," or UFOs, and are now officially called "unidentified anomalous phenomena," or UAP. The task force was led by the Department of the Navy under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security. It has since been reorganized and expanded into the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office to include investigations of objects operating underwater.
Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are "of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures," he said. In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG). "We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities," Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. "The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles." In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all "cleared for open publication" on April 4 and 6, 2023, in documents provided to us.
Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are "of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures," he said. In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG). "We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities," Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. "The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles." In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all "cleared for open publication" on April 4 and 6, 2023, in documents provided to us.
"Analysis has determined" (Score:5, Funny)
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1 out of 10 dentists claim that toothbrushes are a plot to keep the little man down!
Re:"Analysis has determined" (Score:5, Insightful)
I fall in to the category of "incredible claims need incredible proof".
Finding it hard to believe that the "the government, its allies, and defense contractors" can keep so much proof secret for decades and no other world government wouldn't have encountered similar proof or if it did, as equally kept it under a rock for decades.
Hell, "the government" couldn't keep the stain on a dress secret for more than a year or two...
context important (Score:5, Funny)
>> involving the retrieval of intact and partially intact vehicles of non-human origin
and the bonobos want their sleds back
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Are UFO pilots obligated by contract to only let their crafts get filmed in bad lighting with low quality film?
All part of the Bigfoot phenomenon. They have a imaging obfuscation ray.
Maybe the aliens are Bigfoot?
Re:context important (Score:5, Funny)
Are UFO pilots obligated by contract to only let their crafts get filmed in bad lighting with low quality film?
All part of the Bigfoot phenomenon. They have a imaging obfuscation ray.
Maybe the aliens are Bigfoot?
No, but Bigfoot is of alien origin. He's an autonomous artificial bipedal agent. The technology is "nyosynthetics" (aka bionics). His purpose is security (protective service).
His masters (who are natural "human"-oid aliens) live in difficult to access mountain areas. Their females are hot.
It is estimated that Bigfoot cost more than $6,000,000 (in 1976 dollars).
But don't tell anybody about this; it's a secret.
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Are UFO pilots obligated by contract to only let their crafts get filmed in bad lighting with low quality film?
All part of the Bigfoot phenomenon. They have a imaging obfuscation ray.
Maybe the aliens are Bigfoot?
No, but Bigfoot is of alien origin. He's an autonomous artificial bipedal agent. The technology is "nyosynthetics" (aka bionics). His purpose is security (protective service).
His masters (who are natural "human"-oid aliens) live in difficult to access mountain areas. Their females are hot.
Aha! I just knew the Vril chicks were in the equation somewhere!
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OK but there isn't a single defined line in the image of the comet, there isn't any detail to show, just what amounts to lens flare and fake color and similarly the JWST image is nothing but blurred blobs.
These are objects in rapid motion in the water filled atmosphere typically being photographed from a stationary point or vantage with a drastic velocity difference. Yes there are much higher quality aircraft images but they are generally taken on the ground or by a professional photographer who has set up
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>> involving the retrieval of intact and partially intact vehicles of non-human origin
and the bonobos want their sleds back
This damn well better get to +5 funny. My coffee now on my keyboard tells us that
Is a nutter convention happening somewhere? (Score:5, Funny)
Historically I've noticed the UFO stories seem to come in waves, and lately it seems like the water might be on the rise again.
Re:Is a nutter convention happening somewhere? (Score:5, Insightful)
I will gladly take U.F.O. conspiracy stories over QAnon bullshit.
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I equate them as the same people.
Re:Is a nutter convention happening somewhere? (Score:5, Informative)
At least the UFO nuts dont run about accusing random celebrities of being sex offenders because they said a mean thing about Trump or De Santis.
Re: Is a nutter convention happening somewhere? (Score:5, Funny)
Re: Is a nutter convention happening somewhere? (Score:4, Funny)
No, no, everyone misunderstands the probing thing. It's not sexual. Rather, they're looking for some renegade gerbils that escaped a nearby prison planet, and are thought to be hiding on earth.
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No, no, everyone misunderstands the probing thing. It's not sexual. Rather, they're looking for some renegade gerbils that escaped a nearby prison planet, and are thought to be hiding on earth.
I remember, it all started on Proxima Centari b's biggest gay bar when a hamster and a gerbil decided to go in and get shitfaced. They went Thelma and Louise on the galaxy after that.
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Ah, the Legend of Lemmiwinks, the Gerbil King.
Re:Is a nutter convention happening somewhere? (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah but they’re fun and downright charming when they get on UFO stuff compared to when they’re into Turner Diaries.
The government should run a program to promote ufo conspiracies so all the crazy uncles of the world have a positive hobby to enjoy.
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I equate them as the same people.
UFO conspiracy believers have yet to go shoot up a pizza parlor.
I refer to myself as an open minded skeptic. As in, I believe that nearly anything could be possible but I doubt everything until I have been given proof.
Examples:
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Make no mistake. Fake stories about UFOs encourage the kind of behavior you see in QAnon victims.
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Agreed in both points.
I suspect it's from feelings of helplessness. In the west, we've denigrated religion so thoroughly, petite look for a secular thing instead, whether it's UFOs or goofy mysticism.
Last time I saw it like this was the late 70s, same feeling like the world was careening out of control.
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Agreed in both points.
I suspect it's from feelings of helplessness. In the west, we've denigrated religion so thoroughly, petite look for a secular thing instead, whether it's UFOs or goofy mysticism.
Perhaps some company could open a $2,500/night resort hotel where this deity (or actors costumed like him) could be encountered. They could also have Pluto, which is not a planet and which is not entirely sentient.
The good guys (Score:2)
I am not sure how many people actually believe the US or any other government really has alien tech and is hording it from humanity in order to ensure their grasp on power, but I am positive you would find too many people who would actually be surprised if the new was confirmed to be actually true.
Everyone likes to think their country is the good guys, but if a government is involved, they are not.
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Seems like you're confirming the GP's statement. You're a skeptic now, but if this WAS confirmed to be true, would you be surprised?
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I don't have a hard time believing it because I think they wouldn't do it
I have a hard time believing it because I don't think Aliens are fucking with this bumfuck backwater full of dumbfucks who want to destroy their own biosphere.
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I have a hard time believing it because I don't think Aliens are fucking with this bumfuck backwater full of dumbfucks who want to destroy their own biosphere.
If you had the opportunity to watch how another civilization lives, wouldn't you take the opportunity to do so?
Put another way, if time travel were real, you can guarantee there would be those in the scientific community who would go back and watch how homo erectus and other pre-humans lived.
Re:The good guys (Score:4, Insightful)
I have a hard time believing it because it requires too many people to remain silent. Do you really think that thousands of people can go home every night and not tell their families and friends what they have seen?
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You mean like this guy? There are no shortage of leaks and whistleblowers nor is there is a shortage of others reporting sightings. There is loads of evidence. Some turns out to be fake, some has a more mundane explanation presented which MAY be the case but all of it is brushed aside or assumed false before any analysis.
Just look at the kneejerk comments here. I haven't seen anything which convinces me of the existence of little green men but I've seen plenty of evidence of propaganda campaigns to generall
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You know how it is, it's been a long week, you want to blow off some steam, so you smoke a bunch of space-weed, pick up a 60-pack of space-beer, and go around primate-tipping pre-sapient technological species that haven't even figured out how to yigralthmek their vlmenthrwits yet.
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Everyone likes to think their country is the good guys, but if a government is involved, they are not.
Lots of countries are the good guys [google.com]
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That's the glaring hole in the, "keeping it secret to keep power", argument.
"illegally withheld from Congress" (Score:5, Informative)
It's really just a question of how vocal they're going to be.
Somebody is lying (Score:2)
Is it:
a) This alleged whistleblower or
b) A deep state group
The fact that we can't assume it's (a) is a symptom of the horrible disease affecting our society at the moment.
Re:Somebody is lying (Score:5, Interesting)
Or
c) a russian or chinese disinformation campaign aiming to discredit the us government or draw attention away from something else
Looking at this from another perspective... If there were alien spacecraft visiting earth, as well as fragments of damaged ones what's the likelihood that they would all end up in the territory of america and its allies, and be found by the government before the public?
Chances are at least some would be found by the public, or be found by other governments in other places.
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Re:Somebody is lying (Score:5, Insightful)
That quote appears to be from Douglas Adams, not anyone in 581 BC.
Re:Somebody is lying (Score:4, Funny)
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And how is the alien spacecraft technology so great that it can perform interstellar travel, but it can't avoid regularly crashing into Earth?
You have no idea how frequently they crash, compared to how often they visit the earth.
There could be thousands of them buzzing around the atmosphere, undetected, at this very moment.
How can an FTL craft have a problem that causes a disintegration? Have you never heard of a structural integrity field, or spacecraft that are not designed to survive penetration of the atmosphere?
Maybe the gravimetric drive malfunctioned and twisted the whole craft up. That seems most likely to me.
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Or
d) the aliens
Re: Somebody is lying (Score:2)
It's not impossible if there was something about the continental us leading to this happening. I am 99 percent sure this guy is full of shit but wow what would it mean if he isn't and congress orders the FBI to investigate or some other agency with the power to obtain the evidence and records.
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Or
c) a russian or chinese disinformation campaign aiming to discredit the us government or draw attention away from something else
Looking at this from another perspective... If there were alien spacecraft visiting earth, as well as fragments of damaged ones what's the likelihood that they would all end up in the territory of america and its allies, and be found by the government before the public?
Chances are at least some would be found by the public, or be found by other governments in other places.
First of all, no suggestion has been made that the US is the only country with recovered alien artifacts. Second, the public did in fact discover UFO wrecks before the Army showed up. New Mexico, 1947 is the most famous and canonical example for the USA.
Re:Somebody is lying (Score:5, Interesting)
New Mexico, 1947 is the most famous and canonical example for the USA.
And anyone learning the facts and capable of rational introspection realizes it was a balloon that held radio gear capable of detecting nuclear blast testing done anywhere above the surface of the earth to keep tabs on enemy technical advancement. Of course they would hide it, it would give away a key piece of gear in the war machine arsenal.
While there is basically no evidence the idea that the government doesn’t do stuff like this without a reason is very sound. Personally I believe the US military has developed a drone that’s little more than a jet engine with highly vectored thrust and with no humans on board is capable of 70g or so maneuvering or some such thing. They have a vested reason to reclaim such things and a history of blaming “aliens” so this fits and also explains why the US is the only country retrieving such things.
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Can'tNot is on to it. The lie is the whistleblowing. There is so many Republican nutters in the Houses now that there is bound to be no shortage of nobodies happy to feed that nuttiness.
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We can rule out (b) though.
The deep state does not exist.
The deep state is real (Score:3)
This story demonstrates its existence and lack of accountability.
https://www.theguardian.com/wo... [theguardian.com]
How much real power these people wield is unclear. But that they exist is true beyond reasonable doubt.
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Re:"illegally withheld from Congress" (Score:5, Funny)
Rep. Jim Jordan: This House Oversight Committee will come to order. The ranking member and myself will each be allowed 5 minutes opening remarks.
Rep JJ: : Double, double toil and trouble....
Ranking Member: Get on with it, muppet.
Rep JJ: : Ms Marjorie Greene, you are first up for questions.
Marjorie Greene: Okay General, tell us what are these UFOs?
General Puff-n-Huff: I cannot Ms Greene, and they are called Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs).
MG: Skip the nomen-name-ature, General. What are they?
G. PnH: It's hard to say, they do unspeakable things.
MG: What kind of unspeakable things?
G. PnH: I cannot say, they are unspeakable.
MG: Cut the crap, are they aliens?
G. PnH: Well, they do speak Spanish.
(Gen.'s aids start smiling viciously)
MG: Stop humoring me. Now, these UFOs, have you actually met any of their occupants?
G. PnH: Well, there was one little feller. He was a bit odd.
MG: Odd in what way?
G. PnH: He...uhhh... he wanted us to take him to our leader....errr....you.
MG: Me?! (now screeching) WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM???
G. PnH: We told him we didn't give out that kind of information, so we showed him Google Maps.
(General's staff now crying with laughter behind the General)
MG: HOLY SHIT!!!
G. PnH: It's okay. He already knew about Google Maps. Anyhow, he lent us one of their Jewish space lasers.
(General's staff are now falling out of their chairs with laughter)
MG: Well, how does it work?
G. PnH: We aren't sure yet, but we think it turns regular police into Nancy Pelosi's Gazpacho Police.
MG: I knew it!! I knew it!! (looks around at the doors nervously) What do they do?
G. PnH: Mostly they take each other out on same-sex dates.
MG: It turns them gay?
G. PnH: Yep, we call it the Gay Ray. I have one here (pulls out an evil looking device from his attache case and points it at MG).
MG runs screaming out of the room. The General, bless his twisted little heart, gets an evil grin on his face and starts pointing it in turn at members of the committee. A stampede forms a screaming scrum at the door.
G. PnH: Damn! Now that's what I call a weapon.
The Democrats, all of whom remained, rise and give him a standing ovation.
Ranking Member: So what does it really do, General?
G. PhH presses a tab and out pops a Pez.
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We really need qualified scientists in the houses of power to give these political clowns proper counsel on this kind of stuff (Be it UAFs, Climate change, etc. Heck, even economics). And by scientists I mean from proper universities, not whacko partisan think-tanks.
On a surface reading of the story it talks about "Unique atomic arangements". Thats a bit of a red flag this might be hogwash. Theres a lot of history of UFO nuts talking about element 115 with a previous "whistleblower" even claiming to have sa
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And Congress needs someone to tell them this. Any physicist or decently qualified chemist will do.
Wouldn't do much, they'd dismiss the person who knows as a kook and a crackpot, then go on to praise the whistleblower who is the actual kook and crackpot.
Besides, if there was actual evidence, It would be among Trump's stash in Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster. I'm not being political here, just imagine the havoc he could wreak by exposing the so called facts about UFO's.
Considering the secrecy around this, something so classified that it has been classified for almost 70 years, he could call up Garland and
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Good point!
The further inference of course is that the fact that charges continue implies no such evidence exist.
Although one could suppose the existance of such high level spooky conspiracy information would likely be accomanied by something like "Remember what happened to Kennedy. Snitches dont live long enough to get stitches"
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Maybe it's a piece of a jewish space laser?
Re:"illegally withheld from Congress" (Score:5, Insightful)
We're not skeptical about the guv hiding something. We're skeptical that there's anything about ufos to hide.
Re:"illegally withheld from Congress" (Score:5, Insightful)
We're not skeptical about the guv hiding something. We're skeptical that there's anything about ufos to hide.
Exactly this! The whole concept of hiding everything, while apparently not suddenly gaining the abilities of the aliens for almost 70 years by now is simply not credible.
The alien materials would be analyzable, the alien technology would be subject to the same laws of physics.
And apparently while being completely enigmatic and mind blowing technologists, the aliens still crash and by some accounts captured alive.
Then to top is all off, this amazing faster than light technology is not used - we're still trying to use chemical rockets while we have in out hands the holy grail of interstellar travel.
Sounds like this whistleblower is likely looking for a new show on the Discovery channel, along with the paranormal ghost hunters, finding Bigfoot, and (bow and genuflect) Ancient Aliens.
Re:"illegally withheld from Congress" (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly this! The whole concept of hiding everything, while apparently not suddenly gaining the abilities of the aliens for almost 70 years by now is simply not credible.
Along those lines, the fact that Donald Trump was president is my best argument that the US government has no UFO information. Let me explain.
Sometime towards the end of Obama's 2nd term as president, some kid asked him about UFOs and aliens. Obama told the boy that he couldn't comment on the subject but he could tell him that as the president of the USA, he was in a position to have the information on whether aliens exist. This was more than any other president ever said.
Then we had Trump as president. Either somehow the entire government and military kept the information away from Trump about aliens (assuming that they do exist) or they told him nothing because there is nothing to tell. The latter is most likely. If Trump was ever told about aliens and that they do exist, no way would he keep that secret. He'd be building a spaceport and demanding that all alien spacecraft use his spaceport when coming to earth. So the fact that Trump hasn't done that or said anything about the subject means that there's nothing to tell because no way would he be able to keep it secret.
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Post pics.
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Post pics.
Yeah, this is one of the many, many problems with these claims.
Apple can't even keep an unreleased iPhone away from MacRumors - every year we get high quality, high resolution images of the prototypes months before they've even begun mass production. Yet somehow with all those people in "the government, its allies, and defense contractors" who've supposedly had physical contact with these crashed alien spaceships... somehow, not one photo has emerged!
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Yet somehow with all those people in "the government, its allies, and defense contractors" who've supposedly had physical contact with these crashed alien spaceships... somehow, not one photo has emerged!
Clearly the alien spaceships have a field that disables CCDs. What more evidence do you need?
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Whatever you want to say about the US government and UFOs, it's really stupid comparing information given to thousands of wage-slaves in China to the most closely held US secrets. But you want to talk IP? There's a number of leaks I'd *love* to see, as would many others. Apple has had *very* little in t
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Oh photos appear ALL the time.
And they're always blurry, grainy, and ofc. has little round out-of-focus dots with someone who can't hold a 1999 barbie cam without stabilizer to save their life.
Even in 2023.
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Apple did completely suppress early information about its new AR headset. And tens of thousands of people apparently had access to the USA's Ukraine documents but only one person leaked them to Discord. So there are examples out there of well contained info. Yeah, it's a stretch to think this has been sustained for generations, but if the right preservation rules were put in place early on, it's not completely impossible (which is, of course, the loophole on which conspiracy theories thrive).
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Even if he did you can guarantee that the UHD smartphone/camera used would suddenly have reverted to 1970s consumer polaroid used in the dark mode just like all the other UFO/bigfoot/whatever pictures.
Unbelievable Featured Op-ed (Score:5, Insightful)
Cleared for open publication... (Score:5, Insightful)
"cleared for open publication" Which is military security speak for we don't care about this because it's all made up ,,,
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And makes me question the use of the term "whistleblower".
Wasting resources (Score:4, Funny)
1. At a very high level, create a group of people and give them a specialized, compartmented, very high security clearance, even though they would never clear a regular security check.
2. Fill a warehouse with parts of experimental aircraft covered with tarps
3. Have a couple of insiders wearing lab coats and oscilloscopes standing around the warehouse doing important looking things
4. Have the rest of the people move crates around and catch glimpses of the weirdness going on
5. Wait for the leaks to happen
6. Let your military enemies start freaking out over what you could be possibly doing, and start monitoring the facility for potential spies as they their waste time, money, and resources
Total cost for the military: a couple of million dollars a year, mainly in salaries, as the warehouse can be staged using junk you have lying around
Value: Priceless
Ahh, time for the crazy again (Score:2)
This is what, the tenth story of someone claiming to be from the military that claims without any evidence that there's secret aliens everywhere and "they don't want you to know".
If they had this tech... (Score:4, Insightful)
... they'd have been using it in military systems for years now. Unless its so exotic they can't figure out how it works or was made which is a possibility I suppose.
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... they'd have been using it in military systems for years now. Unless its so exotic they can't figure out how it works or was made which is a possibility I suppose.
Hard to imagine they couldn't figure it out. Since the aliens live in the same universe, they are subject to the same laws of physics.
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How do you reckon the victorians would have got on trying to figure out how a CPU worked, never mind what it actually did?
Saw This Before (Score:2)
Y'all are arrogant trolls (Score:2)
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Quantum entanglement works faster than light - apparently instantaniously - though current theories attest that no information can be sent using it. However theories in physics have a habit of changing over time so who knows.
Re:Y'all are arrogant trolls (Score:4, Insightful)
The sheer size of our universe pretty much guarantees that there's intelligent beings somewhere else besides here. The sheer size of the universe also pretty much (not quite as much but may as well be) guarantees that they are all too far away in space and time for us to ever meet. Therefore, the only way we are going to communicate with such beings will have to be via something faster than light.
This. The vastness of space is so impossibly huge and therefore probabilities of intelligent life being nearby so impossibly small as to be incomprehensible to most people without a STEM background. I would also like to believe that we will find evidence of such life (or actual communication with it) eventually, but that belief does not change the simple factual statement that I quoted.
While theories in Physics are regularly refined and updated (i.e. relativity as a refinement of newtonian mechanics), a complete reversal of a major concept (like the impossibility of FTL travel) is a rather rare occurrence.
obligatory (Score:2)
Chinese holograms (Score:2)
Re: Chinese holograms (Score:3)
Projections? Holograms? If so, it is less likely to be the Chinese and almost certainly the old funfair janitor trying to scare people away from the gold mine it was built on.
Occam/Schroedinger - It's simple. (Score:2)
I don't think there are any such fragments. Until they are made public they are purely theoretical.
I totally believe that if there are such fragments, the government would hide that truth
For now, this is briefly entertaining.
What's the other hand doing? (Score:2)
There have been some many UFO stories lately - many of them vaguely related to the US government. This is just the latest. Honestly, it reminds me of cheap magicians, trying to distract your attention from what their other hand is doing.
So...just what is the US government doing, that they don't want the masses to pay attention to? Did they misplace a nuke? Poison a lake? Raise a debt ceiling? What is it?
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Hey, if we've got interstellar alien technology to research, who cares about climate change? The alien tech will save the earth, and if not, we'll just fuck off to another planet! Also, conveniently, companies can keep polluting in the meantime.
Just a thought.
Didn't Saddam also have WMDs? (Score:2)
Alien Craft? (Score:2)
I have it (Score:3)
It's in my garage. But I won't tell you where my garage is, it's a big secret. If I tell, *they* will find out.
Just no. (Score:2)
Aah, i understand now.. (Score:2)
This level of bullshit can only mean one thing... The US presidential campaigns have started.
Dang (Score:2)
Where is Art Bell [lareviewofbooks.org] when we need him?
Alien intelligence (Score:2)
Bob Lazar v2.0 (Score:3)
Anyone can claim anything (Score:2)
Shado is Investigating : ) (Score:3)
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But also true! Any random piece of pyrolysed shite is a unique atomic arrangement because the process is random. But that's like saying this here snowflake must be of alien origin because it has a unique structure.
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I can't tell if you're a troll or just retarded
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Well yeah, nothing else explains the sudden and rapid onset of technological progress. We went from copper POTS to gigabit internet and AI in 40 years. We're pushing 3nm transistors now? People are clowns if they don't think this tech came from aliens. Humans could never figure it out on our own.
Yup.
As Dawkins succinctly put it, it is the argument from personal incredulity. Some people just cannot figure out how some things happen, so Dunning-Kruger tells them that no one could figure it out but some really smart Alien.
For all of our flaws, like our deep seated need to kill each other, humans are actually damn smart critters.
And if we actually had intact devices from these aliens, we'd be using their technology to go to space rather than strapping 30 some engines on a chemical rocket and watching it go kaboom.
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It crash landed near Area 51. Not over vast Siberia/central Asia, or Africa, or the rain forests of South America, or the Great White North, or Antarctica next to the Thing, or in the oceans that make up most of the Earth's surface area. No, right here in the good ol' USA, and after traveling for potentially dozens or hundreds or more light years across the galaxy.
Of course it did, there's were "they" put their alien-attracting beacon in order to have the alien vessels conveniently delivered to their labs, and also to keep others from getting at the technological goodies.
It's the only explanation that makes no sense.