Amazon Prime Video Will Start Showing Ads on January 29 (theverge.com) 227
Amazon earlier this year announced plans to start incorporating ads into movies and TV shows streamed from its Prime Video service, and now the company has revealed a specific date when you'll start seeing them: it's January 29th. From a report: "This will allow us to continue investing in compelling content and keep increasing that investment over a long period of time," the company said in an email to customers about the pending shift to "limited advertisements."
"We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers. No action is required from you, and there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership," the company wrote. Customers have the option of paying an additional $2.99 per month to keep avoiding advertisements.
"We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers. No action is required from you, and there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership," the company wrote. Customers have the option of paying an additional $2.99 per month to keep avoiding advertisements.
Downward Spiral (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Downward Spiral (Score:5, Informative)
Years ago? How about DECADES ago?
Remember when Cable TV offered an ad-free television viewing experience, for a monthly subscription fee?
Then the premium channels that you had to pay extra for on top of your monthly cable bill, in order to get an ad-free television viewing experience, because "regular" cable TV started showing ads?
Oops those show ads now too.
Same shit different decade.
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and don't forget the ads you might not notice, like product placements. In the olden days, outright show sponsorships were common though not so much now.
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I remember seeing some old Ozzie and Harriet episodes on PBS where they left the old sponsorship bits in. The show would open with an announcement along the lines of "Proudly Sponsored by Bisquick", followed by a short clip where Harriet was cooking pancakes with the sponsored stuff and the boys were eating them, talking about how delicious they were. I think there was another one, sponsored by Coca-Cola, where they were all shown drinking from the classic glass bottles while the announcer gave a spiel.
Curr
Blink and You'll Miss It (Score:5, Interesting)
and don't forget the ads you might not notice, like product placements.
Any who hasn't watched network TV in a while, no matter how jaded, may be shocked at how bad it really got:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Bingo. The whole premise of cable was no ads. That was a bullshit promise and the same goes for streaming. You are paying to see ads now.
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Years ago? How about DECADES ago?
Remember when Cable TV offered an ad-free television viewing experience, for a monthly subscription fee?
Then the premium channels that you had to pay extra for on top of your monthly cable bill, in order to get an ad-free television viewing experience, because "regular" cable TV started showing ads?
Oops those show ads now too.
Same shit different decade.
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I think the prediction was that streaming services will become like cable TV (Pay TV in the ROTW). I personally predicted the balkanisation of streaming back in 2015 when it was really just Netflix and Amazon was a rank amateur. Now we've got Disney, Apple, Paramount and HBO with their own services as well and they're just the big ones. People are already cord cutting (in my case, in the UK, going back to piracy) due to higher prices and lower value for money. The next step is for another company to bundle
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I lived through it.
A lot of local channels, which were free via broadcast but offered via cable, did have commercials. That was because they were broadcast channels, though, and weren't making bespoke programming for cable customers. You got the same content with maybe better image quality.
The entire point of getting cable TV was for the cable-exclusive channels, which were advertised in part as being ad-free.
USA, TLC, Nickelodeon, and a bunch of others started out as ad-free. THAT is where I got the idea.
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Re: Downward Spiral (Score:3, Informative)
USA always had ads from the start. They literally planned it into their business model before they even launched the satellite they used to syndicate:
https://koplovitz.com/the-usa-... [koplovitz.com]
TLC was originally a government funded educational channel. You never paid anything for it in its commercial free days:
https://hackeducation.com/2015... [hackeducation.com]
Nickelodeon is the only somewhat valid answer you've given, only problem was in the beginning it doesn't look like advertising would really work, given it was intended to be pre
Re:Downward Spiral (Score:5, Informative)
No. Nobody would remember that. Why? Because that never happened. Ever. I don't know where the hell you keep getting this idea from and keep repeating it, because it's completely false.
I don't know where the hell you were in the 70s but I sure as hell saw a lot of Pay-per-View channels that were delivered to the home by cable companies and they had ZERO commercials at first. And then slowly they all added commercials until it got to to where we are today. I lived it, punk. Chill out.
Re: Downward Spiral (Score:5, Funny)
"Someone older than me pointed out that I was incorrect so I now call him boomer and won't admit I was mistaken". Just like how a 40-year old should respond.
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No. Nobody would remember that. Why? Because that never happened. Ever.
Meanwhile I'm 38 and I lived through pay TV channels that were ad free initially, with the sales pitch being that they're ad free. Then they introduced "internal ads" that only sold their other channels, and only appeared between shows. Then came ads for anything, only between shows. Then they just went full hog and put ad breaks back in mid show.
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In Australia I can tell you for a fact that the initial pay tv (Australia’s version of cable) were all 100% ad free for all included channels. I should know I was one of the first subscribers tin my area.
No pre rolls. No promoting their next big series. Just what was up next and the upcoming schedule of shows. Then it became pre roll ads before the next show. Then came the special premium channels which had HBO etc and the latest movies (leaving the regular packages with material older than 5 years) a
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Because that never happened. Ever. I don't know where the hell you keep getting this idea from and keep repeating it, because it's completely false.
Yes it did, and no it's not. When my parents first got Cable in the 80's, it was advertised as not having commercials. And for a good long while, there weren't any. Then there were.
And the above is probably where you got the idea that this started with cable TV....
Smidge didn't say it started with Cable. You introduced that strawman.
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yeah, we're gonna cancel over this for sure, avast me hearties...
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Amazon video is mostly crap anyway. If I can't ad block what little I watch, I'll find using another source.
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I've got friends who've canceled Prime simply because the whole experience was horrible: they'd get the wrong packages, returns were horrible, things were stolen by the Amazon delivery driver/simply not delivered (as confirmed by security cameras). Nevermind the quality of the software services is increasingly not worth the squeeze.
Re:Downward Spiral (Score:5, Insightful)
It doesn't help that they set 3/4 of a billion dollars on fire with Rings of Power.
Pause and out (Score:3)
i put my subscription on pause (means don't auto-renew) and won't be renewing. I hope they get the message.
Frankly, I don't get it. Why would not not do N-tier pricing where the top tier has no ads. It's not like that's hard to do. I guess they just think more folks will put up with 'ads for all' than not.
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Oops - it IS tiered. Still think I'm gonna cancel.
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Re: Pause and out (Score:3)
Re: Pause and out (Score:2)
Yep, same here. I donâ(TM)t but enough from them to make it worthwhile for shipping, and Iâ(TM)ve decided that Plex is a better experience.
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You inspired me to do the same. However, you cannot on Firefox. Even spoofing the user agent identification doesn't work - you just get a broken page. This should say a lot about the current state of things.
So yeah, i fired up Chromium just to put the pause on. Time to see if I can get my shit from Walmart and Target instead.
Shiver me timbers! (Score:5, Interesting)
It appears that setting sail for the high seas is about to get a boost in recruitment. Streaming was supposed to end this. The enshitification continues.
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I've found that I have a very low tolerance for ads these days. Now that I don't watch linear TV, and blocks all ads online and on services like YouTube, I just can't stand them.
So this is a deal breaker for me. I was going to subscribe again when the new series of The Boys was out, but I think I'll just pirate it instead. I have a Greasemonkey script that adds links in the TV Calendar site to a couple of torrent sites (1337x.to and The Pirate Bay) so that is easy to grab the latest episode.
Prime "free' nex
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I notice this is portrayed as introducing showing ads, while it is actually a $2.95 price hike to maintain the service.
So this is really a price increase. (Score:3)
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So don't renew. As long as they don't change the terms in the middle of your contracted period, it's fine.
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It's a price increase, but they're increasing the price of something you already paid for. It's not like they're waiting until your subscription comes up for renewal. No, they're taking the subscription you paid for and making it worse, then saying you have to pay even more if you want to get what you already paid for.
It's the second time they've done this, first with Prime Music and now with Prime Video. You buy a subscription, then they take away something you already paid for and demand more money if
Why not? (Score:5, Insightful)
No action is required from you, and there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership
When people signed up there were no ads. They were paying for the service. Now there are ads which are helping to pay for the service so the price should go down. If you don't want ads you should pay more.
With luck, the number of subscribers will plummet. People need to send a message.
Re:Why not? (Score:5, Interesting)
"Now there are ads which are helping to pay for the service so the price should go down."
While that might fulfill an internal desire of yours, it's not the way business runs. Setting your price so that your desired profit is a fixed quantity and the price to the consumer floats accordingly is far too simplistic.
My first question is whether or not prime video is profitable for Amazon. Given that it's provided for free to prime members (a side effect, and the only reason I have it), it's quite possible that it isn't. And the ads might close the gap on the value proposition.
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More likely they simply did some market research and realized, like cable did, that they can charge a subscription and have ads and make even more money. The number of people who cancel won't be enough to offset the extra profit from the ads.
Re:Why not? (Score:4, Insightful)
While your points are valid, my views align with the parent and I will be cancelling my Prime membership the day this rolls out. I hope many others will do the same to prevent ads making their way to other streaming services. I hope we can force Amazon to find another business model that does not involve ads or privacy invasion.
Enjoy not having free 1~2 day shipping and enjoy not having Amazon Music while you are at it.
Unlike other streaming services which introduced ads, Amazon Prime Video is part of a bundle of services. One of the tenets of bundling services is that people will be more reticent to cancel the bundle.
Maybe you value "no ads above all else", and is the hill you will die on. But others Value Prime free Delivery, and yet others value Amazon Music, and many of those people maybe do not even use Prime Video...
Those people will hardly cancel.
For what is worth, Amazon gave me Free prime for 2 months (eneded Dec 18), and in those two months, I did not even used prime once, so, Is not that I am emotionally invested on prime or anything. I'm just pointing the pragmatic reality of things...
Re:Why not? (Score:5, Interesting)
Enjoy not having free 1~2 day shipping
Ok, marketing drone. It's not free if you're paying for it.
I pay $140 per year for fast shipping because there's a warehouse a few miles from my house. Never touched Amazon Music and the few hours of video content I have watched won't be happening with ads and won't be worth paying for.
I won't be cancelling but nothing they have offered besides extremely consistent and convenient shipping matters to me.
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Enjoy not having free 1~2 day shipping
I've not been able to get 1-2 day shipping with prime for a very long time now (the whole reason I subscribed in the first place).
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Yeah. I ran into the same problem and cancelled. It wasn't that hard to gang purchases that I needed together to exceed the minimum for free shipping even without a membership.
Their video offerings have gotten worse and I've only used music once or twice, so it really was the free + fast shipping that I was using the membership for.
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Amazon Music is the worst music streaming service (I can't play albums, what the fuck? It's just online genre radio), and 2-day shipping hasn't been a thing for a year or so at this point - it's 3-5 days, and that's optimistic for most items (usually it's a week+). Considering I can get most of what I can get on Amazon either through Walmart or Aliexpress both cheaper and faster, I'm about to cancel outright.
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While your points are valid, my views align with the parent and I will be cancelling my Prime membership the day this rolls out. I hope many others will do the same to prevent ads making their way to other streaming services. I hope we can force Amazon to find another business model that does not involve ads or privacy invasion.
Enjoy not having free 1~2 day shipping and enjoy not having Amazon Music while you are at it.
Someone actually uses Amazon Music? :-D
Unlike other streaming services which introduced ads, Amazon Prime Video is part of a bundle of services. One of the tenets of bundling services is that people will be more reticent to cancel the bundle.
One of the tenets is that you don't degrade quality quickly enough for people to question whether any part of the bundle is worth it. For people in urban areas, Prime might still work, but in rural areas, the percentage of items that actually come in two days is remarkably close to zero. It's a three-business-day minimum where my mom lives, and half the stuff takes longer than that. These are "Prime" items I'm talking about, BTW. Delivery times only get worse from
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Enjoy not having free 1~2 day shipping
Uh.. You don't need to get Prime to have free shipping, genius. You just have to meet the dollar threshold to trigger free shipping.
Free shipping if you meet the U$D threshold, yes indded, that's how I do my purchases without using prime.
But Expedite 1~2 day free shipping (as I clearly said in my comment)? Nope, no, no no, you need prime for that. Otherwise, some items may take up to a week to arrive. I can live with that, but many people can't. Those people may stop watching shows on Amazon Prime Video, but they will not cancel prime.
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What will happen is that they'll see a drop in revenue. I already don't find much on Prime I want to watch. I get my money's worth on their shipping subscription but only barely. What little I did watch, I won't be watching with ads and it definitely won't get me to pay $36 a year to watch 2-3 hours of content a year.
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When people signed up there were no ads.
When I signed up they didn't offer movie streaming (or music) at all. But complaining about something being taken away which was originally added at no additional cost is the very definition of entitled.
I'm out (Score:2)
And I'm out. I'll remove prime streaming before I see an ad. Seems a little bait and switch, the point of BUYING the streaming in the first place was to get rid of the ads.
No option (Score:2)
They have us over the barrel. We cannot win, not with the near monopolies of Google Chrome, Google Ads, and Amazon everything.
When they decide to not let ad blockers work anymore, I'm just gonna pay the $3 more a month and hope they do not alter the deal further.
You have many options. You can win. (Score:5, Insightful)
They do not have us "over the barrel." Not even remotely.
We can simply: not watch. Nothing bad will happen! It's not like you will starve to death. Or die of social isolation. Or atrophy.
Quite to the contrary, you will have MORE time available to socialize, read, invest in hobbies, exercise, or whatever you want!
AND you can STILL watch movies, perfectly legally and without spending a dime, by borrowing them from your local library! Seriously, your library is part of a network that collectively has all the hits on DVD or blu-ray, including all the hit TV series as well. The only thing they don't have are the streaming service exclusives. If you, for some reason, simply cannot live without those exclusives, you can subscribe for one month each year and binge watch them. Done.
You win.
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Boring. I am disabled and have lived in my bed for nearly 10 years. Socializing is not a thing. I am desperate for entertainment.
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In that case, you have my sympathies.
Why is socializing not a thing? Technically you are socializing right now, here on slashdot. Though this really isn't the best forum for friendly dialogue.
Since you clearly have Internet access, you might be interested in the large selection of social video games available.
If you can sit up and move your arms, something like the Meta Quest 3 headset can give some quite awesome virtual experiences, again including some that are social and give you a place to meet new fr
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you will have MORE time available to ... read...
And you'll finish reading those books every couple of days and need to quickly receive new ones. So you'll add Amazon Prime for 2-day delivery. Oh wait...
We have the power (Score:2)
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That's an arms race, a constant struggle us oldies just can't keep up with. Sorry, but it's not worth $3 a month.
Purchased content (Score:2)
Does anyone know if this will this also apply to purchased content? I'd be mightily annoyed if it did.
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And once again, pirated stuff gets even better in comparison. Well. Obviously a progressive market failure at work.
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Does anyone know if this will this also apply to purchased content? I'd be mightily annoyed if it did.
I seriously doubt it, but if that were the case, try to move as much amazon purcharsed stuff as possible to MovieAnywhere, https://moviesanywhere.com/wel... [moviesanywhere.com] that way, at least for the content you are able to move, you can use other services to watch it, ad-free
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The problem with Movies Anywhere is it will probably go the way of UltraViolet [wikipedia.org] at some point - taking your purchased digital content with it.
And, with the balkanization of streaming services - and the never-ending price increases - I'm now finding it cheaper to just buy disks again, at least for some shows I want to watch (especially if it's likely I'll watch them more than once).
If disks go away completely, I'll probably take to the High Seas.
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To be honest you didn’t purchase anything. Are the files on your computer or Amazon’s? Amazon could revoke your purchase at any time.
I was so glad to read this in the article: (Score:2)
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see that's where they're wrong, injecting bullshit, cunty ads into a service i'm paying for? yes there is absolutely action required.
cancellation.
Bye Amazon Prime! I'm gone. (Score:2)
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Ads? For Free? (Score:4, Funny)
there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership
OMG, they are going to give us the ads at no additional charge? How can they afford to do that? That is awesome!
Christmas came twice this year!
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Christmas came twice this year!
No, it was Prime Day.
high seas here we come (Score:2)
Not why I bought it (Score:2)
I still download even the stuff I get for free on Prime Video (and Music) and consume it that way instead. Guess I future-proofed myself with that plan.
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It's not really free shipping, though. The cost of shipping is simply baked into the overall cost. You can get all that stuff elsewhere cheaper, including shipping costs...
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Pay Up, Addicts! (Score:2)
Gotta have that fantasy fix. It's amazing we take pride in this addiction and yet frown on others. Pony up, emotional slaves.
Accessibility fail (Score:3)
I would be OK with ads, but .... (Score:2)
In my experience trying to resume a program with ads, or even just fast-forwarding doesn't work well or at all.
Service should deliver ads based on how many you have recently seen on that service and not simply how many ads you have seen since initiating a stream of that particular program.
Prime Video has spent huge amounts (Score:5, Interesting)
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LOTR has a budget of half a billion over 5 seasons..I wonder if the next season will be more like Game of Thrones, with more violence and nudity. I gave up on LOTR after a few episodes, and can't remember much about it, other than it was bland and uninteresting.
Translation (Score:4, Insightful)
"Our userbase is now large enough and we have enough exclusive content to being the process of maximum value extraction from the platform"
Like how Facebook started off as ad-free, to gain acceptance and market share.
Following Apple tv's $3 a month price bump (Score:2)
English Translation (Score:2)
"We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers. No action is required from you, and there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership..."
Translation into English from BizSpeak: "We have decided to decrease the value of the service we provide and increase our revenue at your expense. We have also inserted the camel's nose well into the tent. You won't see a lot of ads right now, and we've told the advertisers to keep a low profile. You can bet your a
On the plus side (Score:2)
With ads now I have to get up and move around, go to the bathroom, etc.
Amazon's about to loose me. (Score:4, Insightful)
Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full. (Score:2)
I'm not paying for the service to watch ads. I'm not paying "just 2.99/month more" to watch it without ads either. That's a hard pass from me. Time to reevaluate if I even need prime for my deliveries.
Oh well (Score:3)
go ahead, boil the frog water (Score:2)
Shooting yourself in the foot only hurts for awhile. After you cut the foot off entirely it stops hurting.
Over time, all monopolies become abusive.
I will definitely pay extra to ad-free (Score:3)
I like unlimited streaming and ad-free. I don't like to pay per episode or per series. That never seems worth it. Any movie or video that is not available on an ad-free streaming service, well, I just won't watch it. I am perfectly willing to pay more (to a point) to get ad free.
As an example, I have not watched anything on freevee because there is no ad-free tier. But Hulu will let you get ad free if you pay extra.
I guess my MO will be that if there is something I want to watch on prime, I will activate the ad-free experience until I am finished watching it. Then I will de-activate it. I sure hope they make it easy to start and stop!
Thank God (Score:4, Funny)
I want a video-less (cheaper) Amazon Prime sub! (Score:3)
What I actually want is an Amazon Prime subscription *without* Amazon Prime Video included, which seems to be the only Prime sub combo Amazon don't offer! I already "obtain" Prime Video content from elsewhere despite having a full Prime sub (and with ads about to kick in, so will many others I suspect) and really want Prime for the delivery service, not the streaming service.
A video-less Amazon Prime service should cost less than one with video (albeit the difference would likely to be less than the cost of buying just the Prime Video service on its own).
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Google has neutered the ad blocking abilities of Chrome plugins. Since Amazon has a near monopoly on everything and Google has such a massive market share and it's hard to switch to Firefox or Edge (plugins for them are garbage), especially if you have low vision, they can continue to turn up the enshittification dial on the vast majority of users and our ad blockers are only keeping up as long as Google lets them keep up.
The fucking revolution is coming.
Re: Ad blockers are your friend (Score:3)
Re: Ad blockers are your friend (Score:5, Interesting)
That's why I'd love to switch. But I'm also nearly blind so I rely on a series of plugins and and features available only in Chrome. One thing is that you can set plugins to only activate on a page after you have click its icon.
So the "Nocturne" plugin, which reverses image colors so the very white/bright images on a page become black (and actually VISIBLE to my diabetic eyes) are actually visible to me. The NoScript extension has no per-site capabilities, so I set it to only activate when I click. Neither of these work properly on Firefox.
Firefox also obeys Windows' "High Contrast" colors, which is a terrible idea as it removes all the colors, something far better done via the DarkReader extension (and which you can turn off/on or customize per-site). Chrome has a flag to force it to ignore High Contrast mode, while Firefox does not.
Firefox also has an inexplicably tall top title bar and toolbar, which, when you need to make everything big, takes too damned much room.
Edge is much worse, as you would expect from a Microsoft product. But Firefox pays far little attention to end user experience for me to switch to it.
Re: Ad blockers are your friend (Score:2)
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There are few values to Chrome. It is simply a vehicle which Google has driven to enshit-ify the internet even further.
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For low vision people like me, Chrome has several options and extensions (explained in another comment) that actually make it usable to us. Firefox just isn't usable because they pay little attention to accessibility and UX.
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Good thing some of us don't use chrome.
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I wouldn't but I need some accessibility features.
Re: Ad blockers are your friend (Score:2)
Most people watch films on TVs, not in a browser. Blocking ads on TV apps proves to be increasingly challenging since many apps will just hang instead skipping an add. Also, Amazon owns twitch where, as far as I know, ads are baked into the stream itself. It'd be foolish to assume that being in possession of a stream and injection technology they wouldn't do the same to Prime Video.
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I NEVER watch ads. Ublock Origin is why.
How do you know what to buy?
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It's not like I'm not aware of football, or somehow just "forgot" to watch it. I'm actively NOT watching it!
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Make Amazon Great Again.