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Amazon To Increase Number of Ads on Prime Video (ft.com) 100

Amazon is set to roll out a greater number of ads [non-paywalled link] across its blockbuster television shows and movies on Prime Video next year as the US tech giant steps up its push into ad-funded streaming services. Financial Times: The company said it had not seen a sharp drop in subscribers since it introduced advertising to its Prime Video platform eight months ago, allaying fears among top executives of a customer backlash, as it attempts to win over more brands to its streaming service.

Kelly Day, vice-president of Prime Video International, who oversees the streaming video business in global markets, told the Financial Times there would be an increasing number of ad slots for brands to target in 2025. Talking ahead of its first London "up front" on Wednesday evening -- when television companies present their plans to advertisers to attract money over the next year -- Day said its advertising "load" would "ramp up a little bit more into 2025."

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  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @01:53PM (#64834839)
    they'd already made it basically unusable by mixing rental content into the free stuff. Adding adverts just made it extra worthless.

    But they've got to do something with the fiasco that was their Lord of The Rings show. Jesus, that thing makes Ishtar look like a blockbuster.
    • by vivian ( 156520 )

      I stopped using it when I realised most of the stuff i wanted to watch was rental content.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      they'd already made it basically unusable by mixing rental content into the free stuff. Adding adverts just made it extra worthless. But they've got to do something with the fiasco that was their Lord of The Rings show. Jesus, that thing makes Ishtar look like a blockbuster.

      Based on our previous interactions, may I suggest you look up the Critical Drinker's take on the LotR show. That dude manages to almost make the show worth existing. He's also the only reason I finished up Game of Thrones. His takes on the last season were so spot on you almost wondered if he didn't have an eye in the writer's room.

      • I haven't started the second season yet, but the first was a dumpster fire that I only finished because it drifted into "so bad it's amusing" territory within the first three episodes. I have not watched the commentary on RoP by the channel you've mentioned, but one that I found rather good was a deep dive / dissection by a YouTube channel Random Film Talk [youtube.com] which is longer than the actual series, but does a good job of pointing out how the show fails without even considering how badly it bastardizes Tolkien.
        • This won't be a popular opinion, but I'm enjoying the Rings of Power. Is it amazing? No, but it's decent. I'd say on par with season 7/8 of GOT (yes, I know, those were shadows to 1-6).

          Of course, I haven't read LOTR or Samirillion in over 20 years, so I don't care what liberties and gross changes they have made.

          Now, Wheel of Time. That was a crime what they did to that content. I dragged myself through season 1 and refuse to watch anymore. I instead just started reading the books again. Of course, WOT is pr

          • This won't be a popular opinion, but I'm enjoying the Rings of Power. Is it amazing? No, but it's decent. I'd say on par with season 7/8 of GOT (yes, I know, those were shadows to 1-6).

            Of course, I haven't read LOTR or Samirillion in over 20 years, so I don't care what liberties and gross changes they have made.

            Now, Wheel of Time. That was a crime what they did to that content. I dragged myself through season 1 and refuse to watch anymore. I instead just started reading the books again. Of course, WOT is probably my all time favorite, so anything short a direct translation (done in animation) wouldn't really work for my anyway. If I ever win a billion dollar lottery, I promise to see about making that happen.

            WOT and LOTR are both being decimated by Amazon. But, there are several fantasy tropes that they could have used even if they didn't want to use the source material faithfully to make each more enjoyable, they just can't seem to bring themselves to give in to the trope. So instead we get milquetoast male characters, bad-ass super-women warriors (some of which is justified by source material, some of which absolutely *NOT*), a meandering plot that barely holds together if you look at it from anywhere but twe

      • I thought it was just me with LOTR.

        I hate shows with ADD. switching 5 or 6 storylines. You donâ(TM)t have to have continuity.

    • by xeoron ( 639412 )
      Me too...
    • by Revek ( 133289 )
      I stopped when the free to me button disappeared. Having to sort through all that garbage I was never going to spend money on to find something that came with prime was just too annoying.
    • Re: (Score:1, Flamebait)

      by Randseed ( 132501 )
      I stopped watching Rings of Power about two episodes in when, among other things, it was obvious that the entire thing was casted for DEI.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        It's crazy how people ruin their enjoyment of things just because it has a few non-white or non-male actors in it.

        It's not new either, check out this 1950s audience reaction to discovering that Frankie Lymon was Black: https://youtu.be/Qo4_UT1pF6k [youtu.be]

    • Same here. I don't watch services that have ads.
      Amazon Video's movies are numerous but mostly not worth watching.

  • When they first started putting ads in Prime video, I cancelled Prime.
    Best decision ever. Even before the ads a lot of the videos were pay to view so that was frustrating.
    I've also discovered that I don't miss Prime free 2 day delivery (which was never 2 day delivery for me).
    I've found that eBay has everything Amazon has and it's always cheaper with free shipping (and most of the time a lot cheaper).

    • Congrats, but most people won't cancel Prime over ads. It's the free video service attached to the Prime membership they use for other reasons. If you had Prime just for video you got screwed, it was a bad deal even without ads.

    • by quall ( 1441799 )

      I just started watching in a web browser that has an adblocker.

      Now I can even watch that "freevee" stuff without ads.

  • So... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by rossdee ( 243626 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @01:57PM (#64834859)

    Are they going to reduce the cost of the Amazon Prime subscription then?

    • Re:So... (Score:4, Funny)

      by GoTeam ( 5042081 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:08PM (#64834913)
      Right after New Glenn sends a payload to the moon...
    • by spl757 ( 1639295 )
      I paid $129 for a year for Prime without ads. Then they added ads, and not only did they not lower the price, they then wanted $36 a year *more* to make them go away again and they didn't wait for the year I had paid for to go by before doing it. That's some serious hutzpah there. It's amazing to me how far over people will let companies like Amazon bend them over before they realize what's going on.
      • People were paying for aol years after they stopped using dialup. IMO all non-mandatory subscriptions should be proactive opt-in.

        When they announced ads were coming I cancelled my sub. I miss nothing. I love how they always claim shipping will take a week or more but Walmart is happy to deliver often same day for no subscription or delivery fees at the same price.

    • by quall ( 1441799 )

      Are you kidding? The increases are to pay for the total loss that was spent on licensing and producing their LotR fan fiction series.

      • Are you kidding? The increases are to pay for the total loss that was spent on licensing and producing their LotR fan fiction series.

        Calling that fan fiction implies that they were fans of the original. If they were? They wouldn't be writing characters completely ass-backwards to the way they were portrayed in the books. This is just new fiction, using a loose framework of Tolkienisms, while thumbing their nose at the man every few seconds with another backwards character doing really stupid shit they would never do in a million years in the books. It's fiction, but it just as well have been made under another name.

    • by Tom ( 822 )

      Why is parent not modded +5 Funny ?

      I mean, come on. You can't make sarcasm more apparent if you added a giant sign to it.

    • They didn't increase it when they added video, so why would they?

  • Subscribers (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Rick Zeman ( 15628 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @01:58PM (#64834865)

    They wouldn't see a sharp decrease in subscribers, rather a gradual decline as people don't renew Prime. It's not like one can quit Prime and get a pro-rated refund.

    • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

      We are extremely close to simply pulling our household Prime membership outright. Nevermind services like Netflix.

      What's the point? You've got to spend $35 on each order for free shipping. That's about 1 order every other month, and I doubt many folks who use Amazon make fewer purchases than that.

      Batch your orders. And it's not like very many things cost less than $35 anymore.

      • Also the free shipping is ad ertised as slower than prime. But in practice, I always receive my order in the time frame advertised for prime.

        So unless you use extensively the prime reorder commong good stuff which maybe saves a bit of money, I don't find prime worth it.

        My son has a sequence of email adresses "suckersgivefreeprime12 at gmail.com" he used to get prime and cancel right after.

    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

      Who signs up for PRIME for streaming service? Thats kind of an oh-by-the-way feature. The metric they should be looking at is views. Nobody’s going to ditch Prime over this. They simply wont bother to watch shit which means advertisers wont flock to pay for ads. They should be looking to see if overall viewership is down. Lately it seems that even if the 4-6 episodes these platforms want to call a ‘season’ are any good; that doesnt necessarily mean they wont fuck up season 2. Even if they

      • by sconeu ( 64226 )

        Exactly.

        The company said it had not seen a sharp drop in subscribers since it introduced advertising to its Prime Video platform eight months ago

        I suspect most of those subscriptions are for the free shipping.

      • by bn-7bc ( 909819 )
        Depends on where you live, Amazon ( at least last I checked) has no forfilment centers here in norway, so no free 1 day delivery for us. I've always thought about primeas the streaming service that gives some lucky people sometimes else free next day shipping as some kind of odd bonus
    • Why would people not renew Prime? Ads in a video service they don't use doesn't have any impact on their shipping. Heck there's actually some weirdos out there who are into Prime for the music.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Why does anyone pay for Prime when they give it to you for free anyway?

      Seriously, every time I buy something on Amazon (less and less these days) I get offered another free week or month of Prime. If I wanted to watch any of their streaming stuff I'd just use the endless free trials.

      Well, I do want to watch some of it, but their app and website don't seem to be compatible with any of my systems.

    • But what they will see is a sharp decrease in *views*.

      If you're buying ad space, you don't ask how many subscribers they have - you ask (or pay) for how many views your ads get. The number of subscribers just tells you the gene pool you can advertise to - the number of views tells you how many eyeballs you reach. The subscriber count might help 'woo' the idiot investors a bit, but unless they see actual returns, even that metric won't be much use.

      As an advertiser, you want as many eyeballs as possible. If p

  • by FictionPimp ( 712802 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:01PM (#64834877) Homepage

    No one is getting amazon prime for the video. Most users are not watching amazon video. I canceled prime myself because the shipping wasn't worth it. I think I've watched 2 shows on amazon prime video.

    • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )

      No one is getting amazon prime for the video. Most users are not watching amazon video. I canceled prime myself because the shipping wasn't worth it. I think I've watched 2 shows on amazon prime video.

      We still have prime for ordering, but I doubt we'll renew this time. I can't remember ever watching anything on prime video. Every time I've ever searched for something I want to watch, it either isn't there or it's for rental.

      • My wife and I must be the odd ducks. We have Prime primarily for the video content, a little for the music content, and the shipping is a bonus. We generally find more of interest to watch on Prime than on Netflix.

        That said, the next time our Prime subscription is up it's going to be that much harder to let it renew. If I wanted ad-supported streaming there's plenty of other options to consider.

  • From the TF(Engadget)A:

    Kelly Day, vice-president of Prime Video International, told Financial Times that the platform launched with “a very light load” of ads at first, so as to prepare consumers for the coming onslaught. She said the initial rollout was a deliberate “gentle entry into advertising.”

    Not really I phrase I like to hear wrt ads ...

    • It's already a lie anyway. The current commercial situation is the most jarring bullshit I've seen in a long time. It just picks a random place in what you are watching, then switches over to a set of commercials. It can be in the middle of character dialog, during the "twist" reveal of a thriller, or a empathetic heartbreaking moment and BOOM, 3 back to back commercials about prescription drugs and gambling sites/apps

      • by Megane ( 129182 )

        This seems like an actual useful case for AI, to figure out where the scene changes are and mark them for semi-sane ad insertion. (Not that I care, I don't have time to watch streaming shows, and Sturgeon's Law anyhow.)

        • This seems like an actual useful case for AI, to figure out where the scene changes are and mark them for semi-sane ad insertion.

          There's sometimes (usually? often?) a fade between scenes, at least in shows originally intended for network TV. If I remember correctly, there's a story in the Firefly DVD commentary about Fox using fade-to-black to automatically trigger a commercial break, so Joss Whedon couldn't use that for transitions and instead could only "fade to suede". Someone mentioned this here [reddit.com] ...

        • I mean yes, AI can probably do that.
          But it only takes a few moments while watching the episode for the production team to indicate where ads would be appropriate.

  • From the TF(Engadget)A:

    The company is also readying an interactive ad experience that will allow Prime Video watchers to add an item to their cart straight from the video stream. This will work with physical remotes and on the app.

    Seriously, anyone asking for this?

    • Seriously, anyone asking for this?

      Yes.

      Not the subscribers, but the vendors. Especially the crappy Chinese crap merchants who are worse than the average TEMU brand

  • by JamesTRexx ( 675890 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:15PM (#64834933) Journal

    Torrent Stes to See Increase in Number of Visitors.

    • Torrent Stes to See Increase in Number of Visitors.

      Why not both?

      Paying for a streaming service then pirating their content is ideal. You have the moral high-ground that you aren't stealing content you don't legitimately have access to, and you don't have to do the work of skipping the ads for products you won't purchase. While it isn't legal, it's just.

  • by MpVpRb ( 1423381 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:20PM (#64834963)

    I will pay if it's something I really want, otherwise I'll use an ad blocker. If that doesn't work, I'll stay away
    Ads suck

    • When I watch tv on the computer, uBlock does a fine job of killing commercials, but when I relax and TRY to watch tv via streaming/Roku stick, I'm inundated by ENDLESS drug, and other bullshit scams and lately endless political ads, some back-to-back, ALL for the candidate I WILL NOT be voting for.. My mute button gets a BIG workout....

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by sinij ( 911942 )
        Why not use the obvious solution - connect your computer to the TV HDMI port and put the end to endless ads.
    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

      Here is where I dont mind ads.. shows that were deliberately written around ads to begin with. So long as the ads are still inserted at the marked locations. The story has a scripted pause or break with a transition. The worst are the YouTube ads that cut shit off mid sentence and mid thought. I only use YouTube for information. Even if that information is a walkthrough tour of a place I am interested in. Its completely useless for entertainment.

      • Here is where I dont mind ads.. shows that were deliberately written around ads to begin with. So long as the ads are still inserted at the marked locations. The story has a scripted pause or break with a transition. The worst are the YouTube ads that cut shit off mid sentence and mid thought. I only use YouTube for information. Even if that information is a walkthrough tour of a place I am interested in. Its completely useless for entertainment.

        The thing that kills me is shit like what HULU pulls. There are planned commercial breaks in the shows we watch on HULU. But HULU's algorithm inserts the commercial a second or so before the planned break, so that little gotchya bit of dialog or joke punchline, or big action moment that's meant to be a cliffhanger gets cut right off. Then it returns right as that moment completes, the screen goes black, there's a brief pause where the commercials should have gone, and the show returns. WTF? They literally p

  • by Joe Jordan ( 453607 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:21PM (#64834975) Journal
    The enshittification continues unabated.
  • I did one 6 month subscription because it came free with my renewal of my internet contract.
    Even though I have been give other 6 months free, I have not bothered, and the rest of the offerings are meh, just old ideas rehashed, nothing interesting.
    I watch ZERO ad supported TV, have ad blockers, tracker blockers etc on my computers

    Much prefer to read a book, or spend time doing hobbies.
  • by ukoda ( 537183 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:25PM (#64835001) Homepage
    Is anyone really surprised at this point? For many years Fire TVs made great little Kodi media player. They were rock solid and ready to go when you turned on the TV, so I brought one for every TV and some family members. However recent software updates mean Fire TV always started from the self promo screen and forced you to navigate into Kodi. Worse still on some models Kodi now locks up and has to be restarted quite often.

    Since the RPi 4 on wards they have made for a great replacement so I have been busy pulling the Amazon hardware out of service. Some companies know no limits in how to piss off and loose customers.
  • This was obvious from the start. They (just like Disney and Netflix) wanted to get into ad infested streaming, so of course they increase the number of ads and the price of the service gently. They have all the data and know when people stop watching or quit. They might even try to find each household's ad endurance limit, For me, I'm not playing that game. I'll rahter have one ad free service that costs more than all of them with ads.

  • by blahbooboo ( 839709 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @02:48PM (#64835079)
    Thankfully, web browser ad blockers still work against Prime ads.
    • PFBlockerNG on my PFSense firewall also works for me, I haven't seen an ad in Prime since they announced it so I assume PiHole and similar setups also work against it.

      • by waspleg ( 316038 )

        This is what I use, 4 different ad blocking lists update nightly and have for many years at this point. But it doesn't work vs a Firestick "app".

      • I'm running PiHole and I was still having the adverts show up in the middle of watching something. However, these were only advertising various Amazon shows (like Rings of Vomit), so never any third party stuff.

        Anyway, went ahead and cancelled when this crap started to happen.

    • Watch them try a Google: "Ad Blockers NOT allowed". Courts have repeatedly said that ad blockers are LEGAL!
      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by sinij ( 911942 )
        Google nearly succeeded, if they bribed Firefox to switch to chromium there would be no effective mainstream blockers.
  • Prime is the only video site I've seen that flatly refuses to work with a whole-house VPN.

    Imagine letting random IoT devices use your actual IP?

      Anyway they are doing some kind of surveillance where knowing your address is important. Which is weird because they probably have that for packages.

    They're doing something else besides just enticing people with video.

    • Probably some tie in to their Ring camera service would be my guess. They should split Prime video from Prime shipping and then see how well their subscription numbers do. Nobody subscribes to Prime for video content.
  • I was keeping it for the free shipping, but since I have consciously been cutting down on my Amazon purchases Amazon Prime has become worthless.
  • ..."hey, let's reduce ads!"

  • after all, in a normal 30 min show there are ~24 min of content and ~6 min of ads. Ditto for a 60 min show ~15 min of ads

    the problem is that, as other commenters have said, when looking for content, amazon makes it extremely difficult to distinguish free with freevee, free with prime, for rent and for buy content...

    This leads to NASTY surprises, if one does not excersice extreme care, and I do not want to navegate a minefield each time I want to watch something.

    Everytime I get a one month free trial of prim

  • I technically pay for prime (for the shipping not the video) and if there's anything on there I want to watch I'll just grab it from a torrent and upload it to my Jellyfin server.

    Streaming had a good run where it was more convenient than piracy and worth the price for about 10 years there but they've gone and ruined it again.

  • I use Ublock Origin because I feel no need to further enrich Amazon. I bought what I bought and they have no right, morally or otherise to expect me to watch ads!
  • I just download everything now. Enshitification is out of control.
  • Testing the Waters (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nehumanuscrede ( 624750 ) on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:26PM (#64835391)

    Amazon is simply seeing how far it can go with Ad's before folks either:

    1) Give in and elect to pay $3 / month ( extra ) to remain ad-free

    or

    2) Cancel their Prime subscriptions

    Somewhere between #1 and #2 is a very fine line. Amazon is trying to
    figure out where that line is in order to maximize the money they get from
    everyone who utilizes Prime.

    • 2 implies that people are Prime members for the video. Just a reminder that Amazon had 65million prime subscribers back before it had video as part of it.

  • The main attraction Amazon had with its Prime service wasn't their movie services, it was the free shipping and low prices.

    Amazon is no longer the cheaper alternative, they're the Convenient alternative.
    Sites like Banggod, Aliexpress, Temu etc. are now at the price level where Amazon started out, and thus much more attractive.
    Aliexpress is expanding their EU/US/UK warehouses now, and are breathing down Amazons neck.

    Now Amazon is getting even more ads like youtube, but on their PAID services, are now often m

  • Makes me laugh at how everyone ditched TV for advert free streaming then bullied me over and over as to why I still have physical discs and TV s well as streaming.

    Then just a few years later, they now have to watch the adverts again, while still paying :D

    You cant make it up. Unfortunatlye the adverts on streaming seem to be able to skirt around Ofcom rules some of the time, so I'd rather keep the live TV because at least there the ads are tightly regulated.

    I've been thinking of ditching Prime anyway. Was

  • I DVR the few things I GAF about, nuffin live. DVR, I can skip the ads. Only power I have is not buying anything I see ads for. I'll pay the Amazone more, rather just give 'em the $ and not have to see ads. That or just stop seeing media. it all sucks anyway. Bastards.
  • Good luck to them. I no longer watch it.

  • Let me boggle your minds, kiddies: in the 1980s, one of the selling points, for real, of cable TV was "you won't ever have to watch ads again".

    Go research it, It's true.

  • So I paid the extra fee to get ad-free videos... but still seeing ads multiple times, each time 3-5 ads. I complained on their forum and you guessed it, they didn't reply. They think inserting the 3 second "This program is only available with ads" makes it all right to show ads even though people paid for ad-free service.
  • People react negatively to ads, so what does Amazon do? Double down on ads. Amazon is a true retailer in the grand tradition. They found a way to abuse customers, and they didn't immediately jump ship, so they're going to do it more. Just like Walmart and general grocers with the "inflation" and "supply chain" price adjustments.

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