New 'Star Wars' Trilogy In the Works (deadline.com) 37
According to Deadline's Mike Fleming Jr, Lucasfilm is developing a new Star Wars trilogy. It will be written by Simon Kinberg, who will also produce the films alongside Lucasfilm chief Kathleen Kennedy. From the report: I heard this will comprise Episodes 10-12 of The Skywalker Saga that began with George Lucas's 1977 first film, which, along with Steven Spielberg's Jaws, reshaped the global blockbuster game. Insiders disputed my intel that Kinberg will continue that storyline, saying this instead will begin a new saga, and sit alongside percolating Star Wars projects with James Mangold, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, Taika Waititi and Donald Glover. As usual, Lucasfilm and Disney are not commenting.
Kinberg previously worked with Lucasfilm in co-creating with Dave Filoni and Carrie Beck the Emmy-nominated animated series Star Wars Rebels that ran for four seasons from 2014-2018. He was also a consultant on Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, the J.J. Abrams-directed film that revived the franchise in 2015. He has also been heavily involved in other franchises as writer and/or producer.
Kinberg previously worked with Lucasfilm in co-creating with Dave Filoni and Carrie Beck the Emmy-nominated animated series Star Wars Rebels that ran for four seasons from 2014-2018. He was also a consultant on Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, the J.J. Abrams-directed film that revived the franchise in 2015. He has also been heavily involved in other franchises as writer and/or producer.
He's dead, Jim! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: He's dead, Jim! (Score:2)
Kathleen Kennedy want to nail the coffin totally to ensure it's dead, and also include a stake through the heart of Star Wars.
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It would be okay if they were willing to take it in a new and interesting direction. Nicholas Meyer, who directed Wrath of Khan, once said "the fans donâ(TM)t know what they want⦠until they get it."
Of all the recent Star Wars stuff, the only good ones have been ones that there was no clamour from fans for, which didn't pander to them. Rogue One and Andor are great examples. No legacy characters, no characters from the books, just original stories and original ideas, done really well. Stuff
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Wrath of Khan was exactly what fans wanted especially after the first bizarre Star Trek movie where Kirk couldn't even use Kirkian Logic to kill the hostile computer as per tradition.
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Really, you think the fans wanted to watch Kirk make a fatal mistake and Spock die? You think pitching a submarine warfare movie in space would have gone down well with the fanbase?
Meyer didn't bother with the fan service that shows like Picard couldn't resist. It works as a stand-alone movie, even if you have never seen Trek before.
Another great example of that is Star Trek Prodigy, especially season 2. There are legacy characters, but they are an important part of the plot and not just a cameo or shoe-hor
Obligatory Simpsons quote (Score:2)
Enough said [youtube.com].
Characters (Score:1, Funny)
Ok, we all know the new emperor will be named Trump.
But who will be Vador ?
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But who will be Vador ?
Who would play the role of the young protege who one fought against the Emperor but now serves as his loyal underling and errand boy? Hm, that's a stumper.
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Ok, we all know the new emperor will be named Trump.
But who will be Vador ?
It's right there in TFS!
They recycled the shark from Jaws to play Darth Vader in the new series!
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Trump can't be the Emperor. The new movies will be entirely modern. The future is female, trans, disabled, Black-Arab lesbians!
Down with the cis gender white male patriarchy and their rape culture! Luke Skywalker was a villain.
Will never be made. (Score:2)
This is just a paper announcement. There's no chance this will be made after the catastrophic Disney+ releases.
The recent outbursts of some of the old profilic actors (like Hamill) as well as the ones (think people from Acolyte) combined with Disney losing money left and right have pretty much killed the entire franchise. Old fans have said "No" and the 'new audience' doesn't care.
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New audience cares very much. Not about watching it mind you. They care about it being made and shoved down the throats of the evil oppressor class to "spread the message".
Boring (Score:1)
Zombified Franchise (Score:1)
Yawn! (Score:2)
Star Wars Films = Doomed Since TLJ (Score:3)
The Force Awakens delivered three unprecedented blockbuster weekends (twice dropping less than 40%), then stayed in eight figures for another month:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=starwars7.htm [boxofficemojo.com]
Compare that to TLJ:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=starwars8.htm/a> [boxofficemojo.com]
TFA satisfaction (and plot hooks) had given them a reason to come back, the marketing machine was firing on all cylinders, and the critics were full of praise [slashdot.org]. The Last Jedi was poised to perform just as well as The Force Awakens and everything was going so smoothly . . . right up until audiences actually watched the thing. A considerable portion were unimpressed (or worse) and bad word of mouth led fans to flee the theaters in record numbers, causing an unprecedented dropoff in the next weekend. Projections were that TLJ would gross around $450M less than TFA, but instead it earned around $700M less (even with the benefit of that inflated opening). Solo's and Rise of Palpatine's box office takes suffered heavily from their first weekends onward.
And the problems with The Last Jedi were the kind that damaged the brand as a whole (because they signal the intent of decision makers at the top): deliberately antagonizing the core fanbase, openly going out of its way to hold the OT in contempt, prioritizing a political agenda over the quality of the story and characters, and wasting the rare (and now lost) opportunity to reunite the OT cast to properly say goodbye.
There's no reason for fans to think any of this has improved, even after five years of Disney being afraid to release another film.
Star Wars (Score:3)
True story:
My daughter (16) lives in Spain and she phoned me the other day and wanted me to get her all the Star Wars movies. She's on a mission to watch all the "classic" / "famous" series so she understands the references to them (prompted by her grandfather, no doubt).
I did so but before I sent them over, I thought I better check they worked and decided - for the first time ever in my life - to watch them. The old and new trilogy of them. My brother had some of the original action figures when I was a kid, and I'd caught glimpses of them showing on TV, but I'd never sat and actually watched the movies as movies.
I'd seen clips, I knew the "famous" lines, etc. but I'd never bothered to actually watch them in full.
They are, without a doubt, the most singularly awful series of films I've ever seen in my life. I love a trashy movie. I love a sci-fi movie. I love a cheap movie. I love things like Krull and Flash Gordon and all kinds of "outdated" stuff. Lack of CGI doesn't bother me at all. I love epics and long movies and big trilogies that don't skimp on story.
The "older" movies are atrocious. Terrible acting. Awful script. Complete disjointed plot. Cheap sets. The "famous lines" are actually SO BAD in context that it's laughable. And I finally got what the comedian Dara O'Briain was about with his "many Bothans died".... (sigh)... piece that he does. It's the worse piece of acting I've ever seen in a mainstream movie.
Then the newer ones (I'm talking about the "new" trilogy they bolted onto the front of the "old" trilogy) - no better. Better looking, but that's all. I finally understand the Jar-Jar nonsense and the way he was basically deleted after that first movie.
I was actually glad that I'd not previously wasted money on them. I understand strange fandoms about cult things (Dr Who was atrocious but picked up into something decent, etc.), but the whole thing... it just baffled me.
My daughter watched one. She was immediately put off (and she will read / watch / struggle through almost anything to appease her grandfather and thinks nothing of tearing through a 1000 page book in a day). After 20 minutes of ranting how bad it looked, how poor it was plot-wise and script-wise, etc. etc. she said "Do they get any better?"
I was suspicious so I checked which one she'd watched. "The one with the guy from Love Actually" (Liam Neeson). It was "episode one", because that was obviously what she thought she ought to watch first. I laughed. If you think that's bad, kid, you need to watch the ORIGINAL trilogy. And I'd got her the "revamped" versions of them all, with new CGI on the old trilogy, so even the old ones were even worse than that originally!
I honestly don't see the appeal and now that they're "Disneyfied" into a thousand spin-offs, I honestly couldn't do more to try to avoid them.
Star Wars was for those people who say it in the cinema at the right age the first time round. I cannot imagine why revamping them now and Disneyfying them would attract any audience at all. Who the hell is watching/buying this junk?
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I rewatched Krull as an adult. It was just as good, which is to say textbook amusing light entertainment but the first time wasn't like watching 1977 Star Wars in the theatre., either.
Hawk the Slayer, FTW! though.
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Your daughter had no choice but you were never the target audience or you would've watched growing up. You wouldn't have liked it any better then. It's ok, not everyone has to like everything.
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I rewatched Star Wars (original trilogy) recently with my daughter, she enjoyed it.
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Agree that most of the movies are actual junk.
That being said, the original Star Wars (1977) is still quite good. It's especially good if you can see the theatrical release, before LucasFilms came out with the special editions.
Look for Project 4k77. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Well, it's action movies. What do you expect?
The original films had some funny moments, great sci-fi theme, were relatively exciting. Some interesting plot development. That's much more than most action movies. I watched the recent series with the Mandalorian. It had some of the same, in my humble opinion. I don't think you watch action movies to see great acting.
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The CGI versions were worse, not better. The CGI scenes looked super weird mixed in with 1977 non-CGI hand made effects and some inserted scenes changed plot or just made no sense. Han talking to Jabba the Hut in an alley behind the bar or whatever the fuck was going on was particularly horrible.
You let an entire cultural phenomena pass you by while you grew up in it. You were never the target audience. So of course you didn't like them today. You wouldn't have liked it in 1977 in the theatre, either.
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Saga (Score:2)
"The Skywalker Saga that began with George Lucas's 1977 first film"
The saga started with The Phantom Menace chronologically.
And Lucas's first film was THX1138
He should of quit after ROTJ
Don't really care. (Score:2)
There was some interesting stuff, like "Andor" in recent years, but by and large I don't really care that much.
Star Wars died with JarJar (Score:2)
The Mandalorian was a brief decent side story but the rest has been all shit.
I've watched the rest of it on streams for free just to punish myself.
I have 100% faith anything new will be just as unwatchable as the rest of the crap.
Well, let's see what comes of it, shall we? (Score:2)
I watched the Mandalorian and enjoyed it. There is a potential for something good to come out of out. At any rate, there aren't that many hard new sci-fi movies being made.
Sadly (Score:2)
Star Wars -3, -2 and -1? (Score:2)
The kids will be livid.