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George Lucas Actually Consulted For The Script Of 'Star War: Episode IX' (collider.com) 141

The teaser trailer for Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker has been viewed 13,665,350 times since its release Friday.

Collider reminds us that while George Lucas oversaw the original Star Wars trilogy and worked on its prequel trilogy, the final three movies in the franchise had moved ahead without direct involvement from the 74-year-old director: To recap, Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney in 2012, setting Kathleen Kennedy as the new head of Lucasfilm and handing over his treatments for Episode VII, Episode VIII, and Episode IX -- the final three films in his Skywalker saga. Kennedy and J.J. Abrams reportedly threw out much of what Lucas handed over (much to the Star Wars director's chagrin) in favor of charting their own path, and Lucas has been pretty mum on the new direction of Star Wars under Disney thus far -- save for high praise heaped on Rogue One and a visit to the set of Solo after Ron Howard took over the director's chair.

But it appears everything has come full circle, as Abrams revealed at Star Wars Celebration in an interview with IGN that when he signed on to direct Star Wars 9, he consulted Lucas before beginning work on the script. "This movie had a very, very specific challenge, which was to take eight films and give an ending to three trilogies, and so we had to look at, what is the bigger story? We had conversations amongst ourselves, we met with George Lucas before writing the script," Abrams revealed...

Having seen the Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker trailer, this makes sense. The film looks to be leaning heavily on the original trilogy given the inclusion of that medal, the Death Star, and of course the return of Emperor Palpatine. And given Abrams' comments here, it sounds like he was very strongly thinking about Star Wars 9 as a conclusion to the entire Star Wars saga.

After that conclusion, Disney CEO Bob Iger says, "There are movies in development, but we have not announced them. We will take a pause, some time, and reset because the Skywalker saga comes to an end with this ninth movie.

"There will be other Stars Wars movies, but there will be a bit of a hiatus."
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George Lucas Actually Consulted For The Script Of 'Star War: Episode IX'

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  • by Kaenneth ( 82978 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @01:39PM (#58432352) Journal

    It's just the story of C3PO and R2D2

    • by Anonymous Coward

      And these two droids are the comedic relief, which is a hold over from the Two Thieves which a Samurai (Jedi) forces to help him and his Princess escape an Imperial Forces in the movie Hidden Fortress, which the original Star Wars treatment blatantly plagiarized. [youtube.com]

      [Would you like to know more?] [drbeat.li]

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        If you take a story and then write a similar story in your own words, that's not plagiarism. Plagiarism is when you copy the words. There are only something like 30 basic plots in the entire history of storytelling, and 7 or 12 (depending on who you ask) major story types, since people have been writing stories. So everyone is copying from everyone else.
    • Way ahead of you:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • by atomicalgebra ( 4566883 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @01:40PM (#58432356)
    Honestly a Jar Jar only film would have been better than the last jedi.
    • The name is weird. Rise of the Skywalker? Is that supposed to be some sort of apology for the insulting storyline of the previous movie?

      The action sequence looked campy.

      Everything else was just clips showing us familiar sights from previous movies, to try and invoke our nostalgia.

      I don't see anything here that makes me want to come back to Star Wars after the travesty that was The Last Jedi.

      • "Taking the rise" means to mock something, normally used in combination with "you muppet" or "what do you take me for, some sort of pilchard?" Only people who think rings with coins in them are classy, i.e. most non-toff Brexiteers, use it these days.

        Perhaps it's mocking itself?

    • Was Lucas "actually" consulted, "virtually" consulted, or "merely" consulted. I'm confused.

      Boy I would have loved it if Snoke had turned out to be Jar Jar. Drunken master style. would have been the biggest stick in the eye of the jar-jar haters ever.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      It sucked so badly that they have Rian Johnson a trilogy of Star Wars films as punishment!

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      What about Star Wars' Holiday Special [youtube.com]?

  • by Livius ( 318358 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @01:41PM (#58432364)

    Lucas couldn't make it worse.

    (Not something I would have said after the prequel trilogy, but times change.)

    • If you would like more then read the many BOOKS which I'm told are actually not horribly simplistic and pretty good plus they all must tie together... and Lucas didn't write them, just set the bar higher than he could ever reach for those writers.

      You know they will mess it up and Lucas already messed it up and to wrongs together will not make a right. Get over it and enjoy the past movies; even a decent job wouldn't replace your memory and age when you saw them. Enjoy the past memory and don't expect all th

      • by Anonymous Coward

        The books are shite, no one gives a shit about the books. Now the films are shite too, which is a shame.

        • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

          The Thrawn trilogy is shit? Who knew. Never mind that everyone's favorite TIE and X-wing games of ~20 years ago were made around all that cannon material or anything...

          • Cannon material? Like bronze and iron, you mean?

    • by fazig ( 2909523 )
      I am fairly certain that he could make it worse.
      As a thought experiment, think of of Episode 7 and 8 with the addition of Jar Jar Binks and even more little children.
      • As a thought experiment, think of of Episode 7 and 8 with the addition of Jar Jar Binks and even more little children

        How about they burst into song and dance a few times ?

        • by fazig ( 2909523 )
          Musical numbers is something I'd expect Disney to come up with on their own; not that much from Lucas.
          But yes, that would make it even more terrible in my opinion.
      • I am fairly certain that he could make it worse. As a thought experiment, think of of Episode 7 and 8 with the addition of Jar Jar Binks and even more little children.

        They're called Ewoks.

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @01:41PM (#58432366)
    and a virgin birth got consulted. Good. Good. Let the Hate flow through you.

    The trouble with the last couple Star Wars movies wasn't that it didn't stick to Lucas' ideas. The writing was just plain bad and the direction worse. The Last Jedi was just a bad movie. The plot didn't make sense. Nobody's motivations made sense. The fight scenes were badly, almost laughable choreographed and Rey's a Mary Sue character without an arc because the writers were in too much of a hurry to get to lightsaber battles.
    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Rey's a Mary Sue character without an arc because the writers were in too much of a hurry to get to lightsaber battles.

      No, they wanted to add in pointless feminist crap. And everyone can see that. It's just bad.

    • by Mandrel ( 765308 )
      Yes, these days more directors think they're auteurs and write the scripts of their movies. This only works when there's a vision like Lucas with his Star Wars story and his drive to get it made right with the best people. Otherwise, the writing is weak and the direction is cliched because the auteur mistakenly believes they are a genius, and the collaborators become yes-men. This eventually happened to Lucas.
      • he had "help" on Strikes back & Jedi and they're better films for it. You're right about the yes men though. He had script writers for the prequels but they still came out meh and seeing the interviews with everyone involved it's pretty obvious they were too star struck to fix anything.
    • It has become an after school special. I always enjoyed Star Wars as a good vs. evil, but now I get this "let's give everyone a trophy" vibe from the story when it comes to characters like Rose Tico and I hear echos of political rallies I see in the news today. No hate on Rose Tico or the actress that portrayed her and was subsequently bullied for it or political views different from my own, but keep that shit the fuck out of the franchise I've loved for thirty years. I watch Star Wars to escape reality.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        It's interesting that Empire got a similar reaction when it was released. People complained about taking a straightforward fantasy movie and introducing a puppet Jedi master, and then the ridiculous (and now iconic) reveal that the big bad is Marty Stu's dad.

        What do you mean by "give everyone a trophy"? The point of that movie, like Empire, is that they lost badly and hit pretty much rock bottom, setting up the third movie. Rose's role was to help Finn transition from just a guy running from the Empire and

        • Marty Stu? You mean the guy that had to struggle, train, and fight in every movie and got his ass handed to him even after training with the great jedi master yoda? The guy who literally got his hand cut off to show how imperfect, weak, and flawed he was as a character? The one that took three movies worth of trials and training to become a competent fighter and military leader?

          A Marty Stu would've been if he had singlehandedly proven to be a better pilot, mechanic, jedi, and fighter than everyone on screen

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            You may recall that in the first movie he goes from being a country bumpkin shooting at womp rats to piloting a military spacecraft against the best pilots the Empire has, including Vader, and managing to take a shot that the computer couldn't, in the space of about a week.

            It's even explicitly stated that Luke is a special Marty Stu in the movie, because the force is strong with him. He's not an ordinary guy who has to work hard to become an ace pilot, he's born to do it.

            Merely losing is not enough to preve

      • I mean, they blew up several planets, killed Han and Luke (yeah, I know they're ret-conning that last one) and the leader of the "Rebellion" made a complete mess of everything in the second movie out of sheer, maddening stupidity. Nobody's getting stars and everybody's a complete screw-up.

        There's a YouTube outrage machine you're probably picking up on that road the crappiness of the last Star Wars movie to a lot of free hits. But Step outside that and to plain old movie critics who break the film down
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      My guess is that "the Skywalker" in the title refers to a new force using order to replace the Jedi, based on Luke's philosophy.

      • by PCM2 ( 4486 )

        No no no, "the Skywalker" is the new magic power to replace the Force! Disney's got to be sure it retires all those dusty old trademarks.

        Luke->Rey
        Han->Poe
        R2-D2+C-3PO->BB-8
        Rebellion->Resistance
        Empire->First Order
        Tatooine->Jakku ...and so on, and so on.

    • by Calydor ( 739835 )

      What is wrong with sitting down with the original creator for a couple of hours to hear the ideas that never made it into the movies, then looking at those ideas to see if you can do something with them? They didn't say they asked him to write the script like it was the holy gospel.

      • The last time we got ideas that didn't make it into the original movies we ended up with Jar Jar. No sorry I lie. That came out before he decided to "add" to the original movies. I wish no one told him computer animation was possible.

  • From the trailer and what little we know, I think the last movie may be better than the two before it... Because they reach a real finale I think it will be less faffing about and more closing up a lot of story threads.

    In a way, the previous two movies were practice movies for the last movie, both in terns of acting and writing.

    The really good thing is, one way or another the final movie of the original ,movie series finally leaves a lot of breathing room for a ton more Star Wars stories in all forms to blo

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Well it literally can't be worse than the last jedi, I mean can it? Even if the whole film is just chewbacca doing a shit, that would be better, I wish TLJ was just chewbacca doing a shit so then it would have had the same plot quality, but less destruction of beloved characters. I'll probably watch the next one, but I'll be pirating it if I do.

  • 4th (Score:4, Insightful)

    by kackle ( 910159 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @02:11PM (#58432488)
    Wait, there's a FOURTH Star Wars movie?
  • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @02:13PM (#58432494)

    It's Lando laughing while flying the Millennium Falcon as he mows down a surprise return of Jar Jar .. well that's what I am hoping for!

  • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @02:15PM (#58432500)

    “We can fix it in post.

    Even post-release.”

  • After sitting through the abomination of "The Last Jedi", I think I'll see Episode IX after I get around to watching "Solo", "Star Trek: Discovery", and "Star Trek Beyond". Oh, wait ...

    Both franchises are done, and Star Wars most of all. It's nothing but a Disney merchandising vehicle. Having Lucas "consult" on the script means nothing. The script will be ultimately be written by a Disney executive committee.

  • Anyways, I have stopped caring since Episode 1.

    • I watched Star Wars in the theater in 1977. Haven't had time for any of the rest of it, except for surfing on the layer of the fandom by reading threads like this. Oh, and watching the Christmas Special.

      I was too busy in the 80's being a nerd. Yes, a real nerd, with soldering iron and TTL gates and all that stuff they don't do on TV shows or movies.

  • by kiviQr ( 3443687 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @03:42PM (#58432828)
    ...Disney did not buy it to sit on it but to make loads of $$$.
    • by Calydor ( 739835 )

      It's possible they're going to be named different things as they take place in the same universe, but on other planets and possibly time periods.

  • I was a big fan of the first (er, iV) one and a huge fan of the next. The third one was a bit of a disappointment designed to sell toys, but not horrible. Then I paid good money to see The Phantom Menace. What an incredible mess. Horrible, horrible movie. I lost all interest in the entire franchise after that. I could care less how they wrap it up just so they finish the damn thing a be done. Course, that will not happen. Freaking thing makes too much money.
  • by CanEHdian ( 1098955 ) on Saturday April 13, 2019 @10:48PM (#58434228)

    Whatever happened after the 2nd Death Star blew up should be rebooted. There never was a 'first order' that was able to amass an army without anyone knowing about it. Or that weird weaponry.

    I can believe an Imperial Remnant. I can believe the Emperor lying about the entire fleet being there. I can even believe task forces (a dreadnought with several Star Destroyers and auxiliary vessels) being sent on secretive missions and being too far away to recall. But I believe NONE of that First Order stuff they're trying to push down our throats.

    Hopefully Disney will sell the franchise and we'll see a reboot.

    • by dddux ( 3656447 )
      How about just remembering the Star Wars franchise as it was, and forgetting about any reboots? Because let's face it, the last couple of films were just marketing ploys and full of crap. They were obviously made just to make some more money, nothing else. Catered to the lowest social denominator. Just like everything Americans do these days, because having millions annually is not enough. Morals/ethics has been shot at least to the moon, and creativity has been buried as deep as hell, possibly.
  • When he wasn't able to provide input on VII and VIII? I thought I read he wasn't thrilled with what Disney did with VII and VIII, but if he's providing input on IX he would have to accept VII and VIII.
  • I hope George turned them away saying "you've dug your own grave with the TFA and TLJ and I'm not taking the blame for another bad trilogy. I'm going to go swim in my money bin now and get off my lawn!"
  • The last time I watched a star wars film was roughly the year 1987.

    I'm going to keep my vague inaccurate partial memories of the first three films and my memories of my mother being a sharp tongued sour faced bitch when I requested star wars toys for Christmas, wanted to buy star wars toys with my money or played with them in range of her.

  • We sort of broke the franchising somehow and would really like some advice on how we transition out of this...

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