Disney Warns 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' Effects Could Cause Seizures (deadline.com) 150
"The Walt Disney Co. is asking exhibitors worldwide to warn moviegoers that Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker may pose a seizure risk to audience members with photosensitive epilepsy," reports Deadline:
In an unusual move, Disney has sent a letter to theater owners and operators worldwide with a recommendation that special steps should be taken to alert moviegoers about the visual effects and flashing lights in the J.J. Abrams-directed interstellar adventure. "Out of an abundance of caution," the letter opens, "we recommend that you provide at your venue box office and online, and at other appropriate places where your customers will see it, a notice containing the following information: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker contains several sequences with imagery and sustained flashing lights that may affect those who are susceptible to photosensitive epilepsy or have other photosensitivities."
The Burbank-based Disney is also working with the Epilepsy Foundation, which issued an advisory of its own and commended the studio for taking the initiative on the audience safety issue. About 3.4 million Americans have epilepsy and about three percent have photosensitivity issues that puts them at risk of seizures triggered by flashing lights or other visual patterns.
The Burbank-based Disney is also working with the Epilepsy Foundation, which issued an advisory of its own and commended the studio for taking the initiative on the audience safety issue. About 3.4 million Americans have epilepsy and about three percent have photosensitivity issues that puts them at risk of seizures triggered by flashing lights or other visual patterns.
Great movie (Score:2)
From what I have read online this is going to be one GREAT movie. I can't wait!
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The "twist" that has been put on the Kirk-Uhura sexual dynamics from the "Star Trek - Hogwarts" crossover movies (I don't track the franchise clos
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Weirdly enough, weaknesses like epilepsy are more prevalent among the whites, especially in the USA:
https://www.who.int/mental_hea... [who.int]
Go figure.
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Nazis are more than happy to kill whites.
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Sad, but true. Useful idiots all.
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Women in starring roles are not an issue. Pandering is the issue. It doesn't actually make anything better. In fact, it makes things worse.
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No one can ever explain who it's pandering to.
TLJ had a lot of great male character development and was a movie primarily about men. Maybe it was pandering to fans who said the one major female character in TFA was too much?
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Care to point it out? I must have missed it.
Re:Great movie (Score:4, Interesting)
Well all of the major story arcs were about men. Luke's redemption and overcoming his past mistakes, as well as realizing that the whole Jedi religion was flawed. Yoda's "hmm, read them have you?" line is a classic.
Finn goes from just wanting to get away from the First Order to becoming a Rebel, an ideological convert. He also learns that's the Rebellion isn't just about winning, a mistake Poe also made, it's about the people who make it up.
Poe, as I just mentioned, was too focused on heroic attacks, to the detriment of the whole movement. He came to respect the chain of command and see the value in long term planning rather than quick victories that come at a high price.
Kylo moved from apprentice to supreme leader, rejecting Rey's attempts to bring him over to the light side and instead trying to bring her to his.
I suppose Rey's was a major story in a fairly busy film too, so one major female-centric story. Since we lost Carrier Fisher the chance for Leia to really have her moment has passed now.
Re: Great movie (Score:2)
The only issue I had(besides TFA being basically ANH all over again) was the casting of Kylo. Bader came across as scary, evil, and authoritative. Kylo comes across as whiny and with an inferiority complex. I cant take him seriously as a villain.
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I wasn't entirely sold on him either, but now I'm coming to appreciate the character a bit more. They introduced him as Vader Mk. II but it's become clear that he is more than that. Vader was not very subtle, he exercised power through fear the same way Kylo does but Kylo doesn't see himself as evil. Anakin just decided he was going to be evil now, it didn't make a lot of sense because his motivation for doing it (saving his wife) was gone.
Kylo is very different when he is talking to Rey and he has some kin
Re:Great movie (Score:5, Insightful)
Did we watch the same movie?
Luke turned from a hopeful young person to a bitter old one, from the person who thought (and proved) that even redeeming his father who turned over to the dark side was possible to someone who wanted to kill his nephew over a dream that he might turn bad. Finn from someone who wanted to ditch his indoctrination and only fight for what he thinks is right instead of for what he's told to into some sort of useless waste of space and screen time. Poe from a daring pilot to an obnoxious knowitall prick and Darth Emo, sorry, Kylo Ren from bitchy to whiny.
Seriously, I could do without that character development.
But I give you that the female characters had almost zero development. Holdo was unfit for leadership from the start and didn't change 'til she finally died and Rey, well, how do you develop a Mary Sue?
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Luke addressed that in the movie with the line "what did you expect, that I'd defeat the First Order with a laser sword?" If Luke had still been in full Jedi mode with a small army of trainees then either the movie would have been about them getting annihilated or just a load of light sabre fights with generic characters we don't know, kinda like the prequels.
Being the second movie of the trilogy Luke can't defeat the First Order. It has to be like Empire, because otherwise it becomes like James Bond where
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Luke could have worked as a guide, mentor or master for Rey to at least somewhat explain the ridiculous Jedi power level she possesses. Instead he's been made a mockery of himself by throwing the light saber away like it was garbage. That's the scene that was really painful to watch, I'd have accepted if he took it and maybe took the crystal out with the vow to never use it again or something like that, that would have worked, but throwing it over his shoulder simply flies in the face of anything that has b
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Yes, and it would have been AMAZING if Luke had actually propounded on that. "Look, young lady, I've spent a lot of time trying to decide what the role of a Jedi actually is. In the Clone Wars, the Jedi fought, and killed, and were slaughtered almost to the last. Their arrogance and hubris blinded them to the evil which was growing under their very noses, and the result was the Emperor.
"With the Force as my ally, I destroyed the Death Star. What did it accomplish? They built a bigger Death Star. I red
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That was the point of that scene. You are expecting Jedi Master Luke, but he's not a Jedi Master any more. He tried and it went horribly wrong, and now he is disillusioned with the whole Jedi religion.
When you look at the history of the Jedi in the movies they really are not a great bunch. The operate outside the democratic structures of the Republic and failed to stop the Sith taking it over. They basically created Vader, because rather than helping him they just gave him terrible advice to bury his comple
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The difference is that unlike other religions, the Jedi actually have something tangible to point to. It's not a hollow belief system but there are actual powers you can actually use to influence reality. Jedi powers are not just a social construct that work because people allow Jedi to exert that power, they work because they are actually part of the story universe's reality. And since these powers are a reality, there are essentially two ways to use them. You could either become a servant to that force or
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Interesting idea.
Wasn't Vader, a person with evil in his heart, redeemed though? Luke taught him the way by refusing to fight him. Of course he died before he could do much good, having killed the emperor off.
It kinda sounds like him not taking responsibility too, making an excuse for why Kylo Ren turned bad. "He was just evil in his heart, no-one can do anything about that" is a bit of a cop-out.
I guess they needed to be building Rey up as separate from the Jedi order though, and as the light that helped L
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I look at is like how real religions tried to explain physics. Physics is real, but they didn't understand it so they invented a lot of stuff based around their religious ideas.
The Jedi are the same. The Force is real but all the stuff about the light and dark sides is just dogma. Rey doesn't see it that way which is why she wasn't scared by what Luke saw as the dark side; to her it's just another aspect of the Force to be studied like a scientist would study lightning when adherents to some religions would
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In relation to what the alternative to the Jedi order is, I guess we will find out in Rise of the Skywalker. To my mind any mind-control powers are basically impossible for a free society to accept though. And we know the Jedi did abuse them, often for trivial things like telling a guy to give up smoking.
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I dare to disagree. At least how the movies depict it, the "dark side" comes across like something that comes straight out of some sort of Nazi movie, complete with the human master race, the non-humans as slaves and a militaristic society where the military is everything and you are nothing. Sorry, but convincing me that this is not "the evil side" is gonna be a really, really hard sell.
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What little mysteries are you referring to? Rey's parents were looked at in TLJ... I suppose there was the story of how Luke's lightsabre came to her.
Anyway, it was much like Empire. Lots happened by the good guys didn't win and it won't be resolved until the third movie.
Re:Great movie (Score:5, Informative)
I think the reason why "pandering" comes up is that the female story arcs are so stupid as to seem like they were forced to make women look powerful.
Rey's major story wasn't busy at all. She's a Mary Sue who magically became so good with the force overnight that she fought down Kylo. Figured out things with ease exactly when the plot required it. Is magically a good pilot, probably because the plot needed that. Went to see Luke, learnt nothing about the force, and then left again.
Admiral Holdo seemingly withheld her plan from her top general to exert some stupid form of dominance (yay power woman) which helped fuel Poe's story arc.
And Rose Tico was reduced to a tag-along who in the name of "love" nearly doomed the entire resistance by getting in the way of a heroic act by a male character.
The female story lines are so idiotic compared to the male story lines they they can really be no more than pandering to diversity and that is the biggest problem with the new series. They could replace all of this bullshit by simply making normal heroic female characters do normal heroic things in a normal way like a normal story.
Also I don't for a moment thing that Poe respects the chain of command, he hasn't had a story arc. He nearly got killed due to stupid lack of information, and isn't any less gung-ho at the end than at the start.
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Regarding Rey, people always seem to forget that Kylo wasn't trying to kill her. Both times they fought he was trying to bring her over to his side.
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He could have learned that during the battle with the dreadnaught at the beginning and it would have felt natural. When Holdo inexplicable withholds her plan (which appears to be to let the fleet get blown up for awhile and then kamikaze into the First Order), Poe's response
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Poe, as I just mentioned, was too focused on heroic attacks, to the detriment of the whole movement. He came to respect the chain of command and see the value in long term planning rather than quick victories that come at a high price.
Actually Poe was shown to be 100% right in what he did. Had Poe not destroyed the Dreadnought at the start of the movie the First Order would have been able to use its longer ranged weapons to destroy all the Resistance ships before Holdo could execute her plan. Incidentally however, knowing what happens, why didn't they just get one bomber or fighter to hyperdrive into each First Order ship, since we know this is incredibly destructive? The pilots could even eject just before activating the hyperdrive. Al
Re:Great movie (Score:4, Insightful)
>"Women in starring roles are not an issue. Pandering is the issue."
Indeed. It never has been a problem with women in starring roles (at least not for me or probably most people). It has been about replacing existing/previous male characters with women, having women act in very unrealistic ways, and having women say/act in ways that push an agenda or outside-the-story-message ("the women always save the men, perhaps we should rename this to X-Women", and such).
Have female characters been less represented in the past? Yes. Should there be more focus on women? Yes. But it needs to be realistic, relevant to the story, true to previous stories (when it is an existing franchise/"universe"), not derailing, and with a mind to what type of audience.
Re:Great movie (Score:4, Insightful)
Women in starring roles are not an issue. Pandering is the issue. It doesn't actually make anything better. In fact, it makes things worse.
There is a whole segmant of the population that sees pandering as an honest expression of true feelings while the rest of the population sees it as the behavior of a con artist trying to sell a lie.
Now, each and every SJW knows that they themselves are being dishonest, but they think that all the other SJW's are being honest.
Meanwhile everyone else knows they are fucking con artists, the whole entire pandering sexist racist lot of them.
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If you thought Phantom Menace was the best of the prequels there is something very wrong with you. Revenge of the Sith was almost good and practically Citizen Kane compared to Phantom.
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It's a movie franchise that hasn't decided what it's targeted audience is: adults, infantalized adults, or children. That it includes Ewoks and comical droids ought to have set the expectations for an obnoxious comic relief character like Jar Jar.
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Mostly it was boring as fuck and character arcs that were started in TFA that people were interested in went nowhere.
Re:Great movie (Score:4, Insightful)
The love interest with Rose killed the pacing of the movie, and the entire codebreaker subplot seemed shoehorned in after the first (or third) draft, by someone saying "we need another subplot to break up the chase scenes" and "Let's give Finn a love interest, since he was almost the love interest of Ray in the first, and we want to make sure we don't give the impression that we have a coherent story to tell, like the other Star Wars movie did." But wasn't SJW
And yes, I share the sentiment that the third won't be a glue that makes all the first 2 seem like a solid story building to a satisfying conclusion. More likely it will be a "last season" for Star Trek, like the last season of Lost was a steaming pile of shit, put out by JJ Abrams. He likes to pretend he's leaving it up to the viewer to think their way out of his plot holes, rather than actually telling a coherent story.
The fact they made #2 with a completely different set of director and writer, makes me think they were trying to test the waters for a different direction (that failed, as #2 cost more and took in less), so they brought back the original team to finish it off, rather than progressing with a new team.
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The codebreaker subplot was there for Finn to become a member of the Rebellion. He needed to see and experience the injustice they were fighting, and see how people like the codebreaker would exploit it for profit and were basically devoid of any morality. The Rebellion isn't just a fight against the space-fascists, it's a fight to bring justice and freedom to the galaxy.
Leia could have been so much more in the original trilogy, but instead she ended up getting damseled in all three movies which kind of rui
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She took charge to make an escape route in 4 and killed her captor in 6. Those aren't actions of a damsel.
It's shit like this that gets people to down vote you based on your name vs what you actually write.
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In 4 she was captured and just waited in her cell for the guys to arrive. In 5 she was captured and had to wait for Lando to free her. In 6 her rescue plan went wrong and she was rescued by Luke.
Being part of the escape doesn't negate any of that. There's not much reason why she couldn't have rescued Han, that whole part of the movie was tacked on due to them getting Ford back (they were not sure if he would return after Empire.)
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Sometimes the right opportunity has to come along. Getting captured or plans going wrong it just something that happens; I wouldn't say those situations turn anyone into a damsel. The point is she could've done nothing (like when she blasted a hold to escape the holding area, or choked out Jabba), or acted helpless, or like a bimbo; I think those things are what makes a damsel. But she didn't. She was confident in most things that she said (giving a "fuck you" people that she interacted with on the Death St
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It's less about the specific things that happened and more about the fact that in every movie she ended up needing one of the male protagonists to save her. Arguably Empire doesn't fit because it's Lando rather than Luke or Han, but basically the weak attempt to flip the trope after she is rescued doesn't really make much difference. Especially after the bikini thing.
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Especially after the bikini thing.
So because she was in a golden bikini, the rest must be seen through the eyes of a sexist?
Luke was rescued from Tatooine by Obi Wan and droids. Han, Chewbacca, and Leah are captured together in Empire. Han, Chewbacca, Leia, and Luke were all freed by R2 and Lando.
The claims of damselness are exaggerated. They always had someone to save, to keep it interesting, but that wasn't consistently only Leia.
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The one time Leia tried to rescue someone she ended up enslaved in a metal bikini.
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I wish I didn't have to say this, but I feel like you put a lot more thought into the Codebreaker plot than the writers did...
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Given that Finn and Ray were a love interest at the end of the previous, having Finn switch so easily weakens the charac
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Don't forget the Asian sidekick!
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So he used the term correctly then?
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And neither is the problem. Remember Alien? Ripley is one hard ass mofo of a character. Want to claim that Alien is a SJW movie? And Finn is a great character, sadly they reduced him to being a joke sidekick in TFA.
The problem is not the gender or skin color of the protagonists. The problem is that they're bland and uninteresting, one has zero character development (because, well, the only development possible would probably be immortality at this point), and the other one's development was from an interest
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The Force Awakens started good, then it went slowly downhill, it did seem that someone gave them a good start idea, then the story went slowly downhill. Like a party with a lot of mediocre beer - after a while the toilet is getting quite messy.
To bad more people can't just take or leave pieces (Score:2)
I personally don't understand some people's hate for the new movies. Some parts I didn't like either, but then again some parts I did. I don't see why so many people these days have to be all or nothing about enjoyment of a thing, instead of taking the bits they do like and just ignoring the rest as irrelevant.
Personally I'm looking forward to the whole original trilogy truly ending because it will give room to let other material breathe. Like for instance the Mandalorian, which I am enjoying more in tot
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The movies are average at best and because people eat it up they're going squeeze every penny from the franchise.
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It's not about how the movies lacked in quality, but more about how in and around the new movies, Lucasfilm's has shown disrespect for the long-term fans.
Unlike the prequel era, the current Star Wars does not have many good parts among the bad to pick. That is what has made The Mandalorian such a big deal.
Re:To bad more people can't just take or leave pie (Score:5, Interesting)
So far I prefer the side stories; Rogue One felt like classic SW and Solo was interesting (though trying a bit too hard at times)
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And unfortunately they did away with one actor with great weight in the beginning of The Force Awakens. Lor San Tekka [fandom.com], which definitely could have been an asset for the development of the plot.
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From what I have heard online the movie will give you seizures even without effects.
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The expectations on most fan films is also pretty low, but at least some are worth watching, like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Because this generates press and now a whole swath of people will go to see it just to see what all the buzz is about. Or to have seizures in the hopes of a lawsuit.
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It always seems like those effects that warrant epilepsy warnings also seem to induce headaches/migraines and nausea in others. Thus far the effects that been primarily about making the action hard to follow and masking poor visual effects or models.
I feel like they're admitting to doing a lousy job on their CGI and blaming it on a small % of the population.
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The movie needs to include rapid flickering, as that is how they present the subliminal messages of:
1) This movie is awesome.
2) Star Wars: The Last Jedi was awesome too!
3) There are no politically-charged messages here, only unbiased and truthful social commentary presented through fiction!
4) I want to buy the DVD!
Krusty's water world (Score:2)
Come to Krusty's Water World
takemetakemetakemetakemetakemetakeme,
takemetakemetakemetakemetakemetakeme,
takemetakemetakemetakemetakeme - NOW!
Re: Krusty's water world (Score:2)
I would have just gone with Yvan eht nioj.
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I loved it! It was much better than Cats! I'm going to see it again and again!
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Why not dial back the effects?
It isnt going to cause seizures. This is just a desperate attempt to get people interested, essentially claiming "the special effects are a must see!"
Fake news. Bullshit marketing.
Transparent they are.
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Why not dial back the effects?
That's crazy talk.
They might need additional warnings though: "WARNING: Special effects may cause seizures. And poor writing may cause foaming at the mouth, long-time fans take precautions."
Re:Why not dial back the effects? (Score:4)
Staff with skills...
Is Napoleon there? He's really got mad skills with a bo staff, we can't risk having him turn to the Dark Side!
Re: Why compromise for a handful of people? (Score:2)
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Bragging or liability? (Score:4, Interesting)
Back in the 50s and 60's, they would make these kinds of announcements to convince people to SEE the movie -"Come see our cheesy horror movie, but e warned pregnant woman and children may feint."
Now, they are more likely to do it to avoid being sued.
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''Bragging or liability''
No, just plain old marketing guised as news free advertising.
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too many lens flares (Score:2)
I heard about this (Score:3)
It's a controversial scene where Skywalker Pikachu is battling Dark Side Porygon.
Seisures? (Score:2)
beware JJ (Score:2)
Part of the beauty of the first Star Wars is that it tel
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They say misery loves company, so it's fitting that JJ is directing Star Wars.
Star Trek deserved better than the JJ abominations that tried to cash out the brand.
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But the second was getting closer to the original, with a plotline that roughly draws on an episode from TNG (Th
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I'm not sure how taking established characters and devolving them akin to something more like Galaxy Quest is being a 'resurrector' of Star Trek. I see your point, but if all JJ is doing is shitting in a star-trek labeled box and peddling it until audiences don't care anymore, I don't see how that helps the brand in the long run.
It's rather as if Obi Wan was scripted to tell dad jokes. It's completely immersion breaking, at least for me. I'd rather wait for the next season of Orville than subject myself to
M-A-R, K-E-T, I-N-G (Score:3)
This is little more than a marketing ploy. I salute and respect them for it, but let's be honest; it's just another channel upon which to market the movie.
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Yep.
Occam's razor: Disney's lawyers would never allow a "dangerous" movie to be shown to the public.
Won't go (Score:5, Insightful)
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Common Sense (Score:3)
Having seen 8 previous Star Wars, why would anyone expect this one to be different?
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Photosensitive epilepsy is usually only triggered by certain quite narrow frequencies of flashing for most people. It's usually not triggered by action movies that have random flashing all over the place, it has to be that specific frequency and repetitive.
There are machines that can detect flashing at that frequency and they are used regularly in movie and TV production to ensure it is avoided.
I've noticed that in some countries they reduce the effects of it too. For example when they have video containing
How Do Developers Determine this? (Score:2)
I always wondered, how do tv, film, video game developers determine if their product is likely to cause seizures? Is their some program you can run over a video feed to get some number on seizure likelihood? Is their some government cutoff on when you must start notifying your customers, is their a second tier when it is simply illegal to publish?
Old, old, old advertising trick. (Score:2)
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Wish I had seen your post earlier. You're 100% correct.
All that's missing is the claim that some theaters will require moviegoers to sign a waiver or that they'll have doctors on site to treat people who are overcome by how awesome/exciting the movie is.
Pathetic Marketing Stunt (Score:2)
This is just the millennial version of 1950s B movies getting a random new title (that has nothing to do with the original film) and a new poster with callouts for "SHOCKING AND HORRIFYING!", "Doctors will be present to treat cases of extreme fright!", "7 dead so far in test screenings!!!", "This Saturday night only at the teenage sex hangout!", etc.
They're trying desperately to drum up any excitement for this turd.
If they are so concerned (Score:2)
then why aren't they providing the announcement material, instead of making the theaters spend money on it?
Vader Dance Moves (Score:2)
Wonder when we'll get a Dance Dance Vader Revolution for the PS5?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]
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Back when I thought this would be the worst that could ever happen to Star Wars... Dance like Vader [youtube.com].
Seriously, when he shakes his rump in the Dagobah Bump, I die a little. And just when you think it can't get worse, the Emperor rises from his throne...
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Lights are cheaper.
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It's not strong characters I have a problem with, it's Mary Sues. It's not the gender. It's the way the character works.
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Don't link that crap here! Ugh.
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He is JarJar Abrams now. (I think what he did is worse than what JarJar did, though.)
I don't know why this guy keeps getting jobs. He trashes everything he touches.