DC's 'Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom' Flops at the Box Office (variety.com) 114
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom "is headed for one of the lowest starts in the history of the DC Cinematic Universe," writes the Hollywood Reporter, "with a projected four-day Christmas weekend gross of $40 million, including $28 million for the three days."
"The sequel cost $205 million," notes Variety, "and ranks among the worst debuts of the year for a superhero movie." It's softer than November's misfire The Marvels ($47 million), which ended its run as the lowest-grossing installment in the history of Disney's Marvel Cinematic Universe. The Marvels was shocking because it was the rare MCU movie to tumble out of the gate.
By contrast, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom is shaping up to be the fourth of four DC movies this year to crumble at the box office. Already in 2023, The Flash ($55 million debut), Shazam! Fury of the Gods ($30 million debut) and Blue Beetle ($25 million debut) majorly flopped in theaters.
December releases are known to start slower but enjoy staying power through the new year. That was the case with 2018's Aquaman, which opened unspectacularly to $67 million and powered to $335 million in North America (and $1.15 billion globally). However, "Aquaman 2" faces choppier waters. Beyond the minimal buzz and terrible reviews, The Lost Kingdom is the final installment before DC's new bosses, James Gunn and Peter Safran, reset the sprawling superhero universe without heroes like Jason Momoa's Arthur Curry to save the day.
A movie consultant tells Variety that superhero films should perform better in 2024 with the release of Joker 2, Venom 3 and Deadpool 3.
As for Aquaman, the Hollywood Reporter writes that "The hope now is that moviegoing will pick up in earnest once presents are unwrapped on Monday. (Hollywood studios never like it when Dec. 25 falls on a Monday since it messes with the weekend.)"
The Verge argues that, for better or worse, Aquaman 2 is the quintessential product of the DC Extended Universe: In Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom, you can plainly see just how much attention Warner Bros. has been paying to the public's response to its own unwieldy franchise of comic book adaptations and to the direction that its competitors like Disney / Marvel have been taking their projects lately. But in the wake of the entire DCEU being shuttered and set aside in favor of a hard reboot, you can also see The Lost Kingdom as a monument to everything that was great (which was not a lot) and terrible about this particular superhero movie experiment.
"The sequel cost $205 million," notes Variety, "and ranks among the worst debuts of the year for a superhero movie." It's softer than November's misfire The Marvels ($47 million), which ended its run as the lowest-grossing installment in the history of Disney's Marvel Cinematic Universe. The Marvels was shocking because it was the rare MCU movie to tumble out of the gate.
By contrast, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom is shaping up to be the fourth of four DC movies this year to crumble at the box office. Already in 2023, The Flash ($55 million debut), Shazam! Fury of the Gods ($30 million debut) and Blue Beetle ($25 million debut) majorly flopped in theaters.
December releases are known to start slower but enjoy staying power through the new year. That was the case with 2018's Aquaman, which opened unspectacularly to $67 million and powered to $335 million in North America (and $1.15 billion globally). However, "Aquaman 2" faces choppier waters. Beyond the minimal buzz and terrible reviews, The Lost Kingdom is the final installment before DC's new bosses, James Gunn and Peter Safran, reset the sprawling superhero universe without heroes like Jason Momoa's Arthur Curry to save the day.
A movie consultant tells Variety that superhero films should perform better in 2024 with the release of Joker 2, Venom 3 and Deadpool 3.
As for Aquaman, the Hollywood Reporter writes that "The hope now is that moviegoing will pick up in earnest once presents are unwrapped on Monday. (Hollywood studios never like it when Dec. 25 falls on a Monday since it messes with the weekend.)"
The Verge argues that, for better or worse, Aquaman 2 is the quintessential product of the DC Extended Universe: In Aquaman and The Lost Kingdom, you can plainly see just how much attention Warner Bros. has been paying to the public's response to its own unwieldy franchise of comic book adaptations and to the direction that its competitors like Disney / Marvel have been taking their projects lately. But in the wake of the entire DCEU being shuttered and set aside in favor of a hard reboot, you can also see The Lost Kingdom as a monument to everything that was great (which was not a lot) and terrible about this particular superhero movie experiment.
Have they tried telling a story? (Score:5, Insightful)
You know, instead of relying on pretty faces, CGI and political messages, have they thought about...perhaps...you know...telling a good story well?
Crazy, I know, but they should give it a shot and see what happens.
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underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
Underestimate? Have you seen the US presidential election polls?
Actually, have you seen who is even in the polls?
Americans have made Idiocracy a documentary. The fact that the nth cretinous Marvel DC Comic superhero movie didn't appeal to them just means they're probably distracted with something even more stupid at the moment.
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well we have two shooting wars and their accompanying symphony of atrocities to keep everyone on the edges of their seats this X-mas
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But not the Hamas Commander posing as a hospital administrator or Hamas for stealing aid, fuel, food, water, and keeping hostages in schools and hospitals along with munitions. Interesting.
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Fuck off anti-Semite.
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He took all those bribes beforehe ran for office. He was NOT the perfect candidate at the time, just the one who could beat Trump.
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Lol well the usual cotton headed ninny mugginses can't complain about it being female led as they often so when a film does badly.
Still daft. Loads of good art is very explicitly political.
Re:Have they tried telling a story? (Score:5, Insightful)
The success of that film about nuclear bombs (which had a good story and didn't rely on flashy CGI, superheroes in fancy costumes etc) should show Hollywood that compelling stories CAN get bums in seats and in big numbers.
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Yup. Godzilla was absolutely amazing.
Re: that film about nuclear bombs (Score:2)
Are you referring to Dr. Strangelove?
That was a while ago.
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Are you referring to Dr. Strangelove?
That was a while ago.
I suspect so. It's a classic that was loaded with political stings and barbs of the day.
It also had some severe budgetary issues, the production cost was high. Sellers, who played 3 major roles in the film came at a very high wage. Kubrik said he got "3 actors for the price of 6" as $1 million of the films $1.8 million budget went to Sellers. The cost of flying a B17 over the arctic was also quite expensive (that's where they got the footage for the flight sequences).
However it paid off because it was
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The success of that film about nuclear bombs (which had a good story and didn't rely on flashy CGI, superheroes in fancy costumes etc) should show Hollywood that compelling stories CAN get bums in seats and in big numbers.
Except the people in Hollywood who have the money are unable to discern a great story from a flashy CGI-fest. The only thing they can see or understand is money. Hollywood is entirely corrupted.
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Naa, storytelling is soooo yesterday! And it is risky, what if people do not like the story? Better stick to something proven and do it again. That must work! Right?
In other news, I think the whole "blockbuster" idea is basically over and the studios still depending on it need to die.
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If people do not like the story ... THIS article happens.
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When were comics ever about that? These were cheap books designed for children. What are people expecting?
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It's...a bit more complex than that, wouldn't you say?
First of all, some comics were like that certainly. So the target audience derived from those comics would be nostalgia for adults.
Other comics were decidedly less so; Demon in a Bottle?
My point is; there's no reason why the super hero genre should be considered dead or played out; merely that hollywood's inability to tell a decent story is limiting it's evolution.
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It was less about the fact that it was a woman, and more about the fact that the woman in question was a violent, mentally ill perjurist and false domestic violence and rape accuser who submitted multiple pieces of obviously falsified evidence in a court of law.
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In America where celebrities can't lose, Johnny Depp did not lose.
In England with it's insane libel laws where it's almost impossible to lose a libel lawsuit, he lost (because though we have many faults we don't festishise celebrities in the same way).
He's as wife beater. This has been determined in a court of law.
Anyhow Merry Christmas.
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Jesus Christ on a pogo stick you are a grade A moron.
A) The trial in England was not between Amber Heard and Johnny Depp, it was between Depp and The Sun. This means that there was no determination as to JD's guilt on the matter. The trial was whether the evidence at the time of publishing was enough for The Sun to avoid being guilty of libel. B) At no point in the UK trial was JD able to confront his accuser. C) The judge in question was connected to the executives of the company that owns The Sun. D)Said
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Good lord. Whose the bigger moron here? The person who didn't know the details of the nonsense celebrity couple drama and talked as if they were knowledgeable about it anyways or the person who knew every damn detail?
I've never understood the need to invest in people one hasn't even met let alone know personally just because they're famous.
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Don't really give a shit about either celebrity for their celebrity. The case itself however was fascinating, as was the wide disparity of expert witnesses on display. And by disparity I mean all of Heard's expert witnesses except for one were complete hacks, and the non-hack was treated like a mushroom. Fed shit and kept in the dark.
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"I dont give a shit but I find it all super interesting and know about all the details."
You've got me completely convinced!
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Yeah, it's almost as if I watch a bunch of lawyers on youtube, and since this was one of the two interesting cases being televised at the time it was a major topic of interest among them.
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You're full of shit if you thi
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You know, instead of relying on pretty faces,
How much of that $200M cost is guaranteed payments to the movie's stars?
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Yeah, the reviews of the movie weren't good. It's just a middling movie that they did one too many.
Then again, given the excess of comic book movies, it's likely the public is just exhausted of the endless comic book movies coming out every week.
Re: Have they tried telling a story? (Score:1)
Tell a story? You'd need Joss Whedon to do that. He's the real hero of the Marvel Universe.
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"stories are underrated" (exurpt from a memo at DC)
I'm not even onboard with the pretty faces thing. Momoa is a name but Amber Heard? Well she is really pretty, but I didn't go see this movie in the theater because she's in it. And the rest of the cast? Either not enough screen time to really count them, or it's credit soup of basically cameos.
I'm sorry, but there's so much episodic content out there where they're telling us real stories I just don't know how interested we all are in a poorly told story
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Now that Gunn is in charge, things should get better.
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The movie just literally sucked. I don't know how any competent professional involved in making it couldn't see it going off the rails so quickly.
The basic plot (spoiler alert) is that a guy, so but hurt over his father being killed seeks revenge on the "people of the sea" and aided by a clever Asian scientist concocts a plan to burn some fantastical substance that seems it's only purpose it so destroy the planet, and only the wise fish people of the sea can save the planet from this madman.
FFS, what was th
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You know, instead of relying on pretty faces, CGI and political messages, have they thought about...perhaps...you know...telling a good story well?
Crazy, I know, but they should give it a shot and see what happens.
And the thing is, people are fine with political messages as long as the movie is entertaining. There's a long history of political films becoming classics. Point is, that's not the problem here.
The problem is that the formula has become stale. Superhero movies are a dime a dozen, to use an Americanism. The same formula that made X-Men a hit 20 odd years ago just doesn't cut it any more, also they're running out of source material, scraping the bottom of the barrel at Marvel/DC with 3rd rate characters f
Peak superhero hopefully gone? (Score:5, Interesting)
Could this be a sign that the public are largely bored of the genre now?
Hollywood have been riding it for what feels like a decade now - and it's starting to really show.
Bloated budgets, repetitive formula, overburdened with CGI.
Sure, sometimes it's good just to turn your brain down a bit and let it all wash over - just a fun ride - but if it's one you've ridden time and time again, it gets boring.
I suspect cinema is still having a rough time post pandemic - when new theatre releases are often released to streaming just weeks later and sometimes even simultaneously, it's a tough ask for people now used to watching the latest movies in the comfort of their own homes vs. driving to a theatre and sitting in a crowded noisy space.
The big screen is great and all, but we now have huge TV screens too.
I know where I'd rather watch a movie.
So perhaps this; by all accounts; fairly lacklustre title will recoup losses on streaming platforms in the weeks and months ahead.
And maybe, just maybe, Hollywood will have a 70's style revival and we'll get more daring original content - maybe someone will take some risks again.
I'm not holding my breath...
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I doubt it. I think the issue here is that they diverged too far from the content created in the 60s-80s heyday of comics. Those people working on comics in that era were driven by economic survival (of themselves and the comic publishers) to write good stories, do good artwork, etc. Using their material as a basis for movies was a pretty inspired idea. Failing to recognize the reason why the movies were successful is the problem here. Lots of material yet to be mined.
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I doubt it. I think the issue here is that they diverged too far from the content created in the 60s-80s heyday of comics. Those people working on comics in that era were driven by economic survival (of themselves and the comic publishers) to write good stories, do good artwork, etc. Using their material as a basis for movies was a pretty inspired idea. Failing to recognize the reason why the movies were successful is the problem here. Lots of material yet to be mined.
I hear you, but I wonder if Hollywood does?
There's so many amazing stories just waiting to be filmed, but that does require risk taking - something Hollywood seems averse to right now.
Perhaps I'm over simplifying things, but the industry has been stuck in this bind quite a lot historically.
One notable period was probably from the mid-60's to the early-70's - then seemingly almost overnight, risks started being taken with maverick directors and actors and we got a golden age of cinema on the back of that. It
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It's a rent-seeking issue, like so many others in our society. I wish I had a solution. The barriers to entry are high, and the current rent-seekers have to be inclined toward risk taking by potential rewards.
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It's a rent-seeking issue, like so many others in our society. I wish I had a solution. The barriers to entry are high, and the current rent-seekers have to be inclined toward risk taking by potential rewards.
I also think they are too focused on great rewards rather than smaller ones.
Re:Peak superhero hopefully gone? (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know that people are tired of it, but they are tired of the lazy writing and being proselytize at.
What Marvel should be doing is really leaning into their villains, instead of killing them off every movie. Make them compelling, interesting. Make them the heroes of their own stories ( killmonger and thanos jump to mind ). Give the protagonists something meaningful to strive against.
They should also be more excited about a hero's limitations rather than what they can do. What can't their powers do is at least as interesting as what they can do. Play that angle up, show them failing, so when they succeed it actually means something...instead of the usual "plot armor" of the more recent flicks.
Personally, I'd love to see an inversion of the good vs evil formula; start it out with the hero taking what they think is the moral stance, only for them to grow and see how wrong they were over the course of the movie, until you see that the villain was right the entire time ( think: ala Farscape ).
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Thanos does not need a sympathetic movie, he has a whole political party/movement in the USA already. It would help do more harm; it's pretty bad when a politician openly embraces Thanos in "good fun" and it turns out to not be ignorance of the meaning.
We certainly do not need bad is good movies; people are not smart enough to grasp the heavily warn out cliche of superhero stories: the good guys following the rules they enforce without hypocrisy and not getting down to the level of the villains - who when
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Uh...ok.
Perhaps up your meds a bit, then go watch Farscape. They really nailed a great "good" vs "evil" dynamic there, both with Crais and then 100% with Scorpious.
Just phenomenal work.
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I don't know that people are tired of it, but they are tired of the lazy writing and being proselytize at.
Did any of those things happen with the movies in question? This shit all started with the first X-Men back in the year 2000. It was a hit and Hollywood found a goldmine of content to exploit. Nearly a quarter century of comic book movies now so of course the bottom will fall out at some point.
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Weren't the 60s and 70s terrible for comics? (Score:2)
I guess there was some neat stuff in the late 70s, and admittedly I'm not comic historian, but I seem to remember that period being pretty bleh because of all the censorship. If you wanted something good in the 60s and 70s you were ready books because that was about the only thing not heavily censored (and even then...).
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They don't even have to dig far, like The Justice League TV series [wikipedia.org] was watchable and the characters were fun. Watching the Batman/Superman relationship develop over time was engaging.
Then the was Batman: The Animated Series. A lot of great stories there. It wasn't massive multi-verse-saving stories, it was usually some kind of detective story. Tons of fun.
For some reason they've been
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People are also tired of movies that portray their own country in such a negative light, casting our own military as the "bad guys" in many cases (though I'm sure that helps sell tickets in China). That's a pretty stark contrast to the classic Superman movies, etc. Get woke, go broke.
Name one movie where the US military is the bad guy. The fact is the US military is the bad guy in lots of scenarios.
You also can't name one company who is now broke from going woke, whatever your definition of that might be.
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Battleship.
That movie was a complete troll of the US navy. The aliens were explicitly shown to not target civilians, tried to avoid non-military casualties and even minimised damage against military targets where possible, while the navy went in guns blazing before there was any provocation.
Even the final credits song was an anti-war song (Favorite Son
by Creedence Clearwater) yet most people seem to think it's a homage to the US Navy.
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Your whole statement is just yelling from a trailer park. You don't know what woke means outside of what Fox and the GOP tell you it means and I'm pretty sure most of marvel and DC's movies said fuck all that our military were bad guys .. hell, I'd bet a crisp $100 you never served as those who talk shit the loudest and say this, had bone spurs. /s
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Could this be a sign that the public are largely bored of the genre now?
I kinda got bored with them a while ago. First, just about any Michael Bay movie, then the DC movies, as I find them less "fun" than the Marvel ones, then Marvel, etc..., but they're all fairly simple smash-em-up movies, with lots of (too much) repetition in the action/fight scenes -- ya, we. get. it. you can smash up LOTs of stuff in CGI, (yawn) move on...
Also annoying is there also seems to be many people doing a lot of dumb things, obviously needed to keep the movie, or next movie, on track -- like w
Re: Peak superhero hopefully gone? (Score:2)
like when Quill punched Thanos in the face and lost them the battle -- get the Gauntlet *then* punch him dumb-ass
Imho, an excellent moment in an excellent film.
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the boys in the boat
maestro
oppenhiemer
killers of the flower moon
the holdovers ( remastered or something )
Pooping in the ocean bed? (Score:2)
You can't poop the bed if you're aquaman, right?
Yawn. (Score:2)
Surprise Surprise (Score:1)
Every Aquaman movie has sucked. Most of the DC movies have sucked. The exceptions exist mostly for Batman. But even their most successful movies have huge glaring issues - mostly related to sound mixing and balancing when not at a theater.
Once again I'm wrong. (Score:2)
My wife and I both enjoyed Aquaman 2 etc., so we're wrong. Great. Then I read this:
"superhero films should perform better in 2024 with the release of Joker 2, Venom 3 and Deadpool 3"
Three superhero films we will NOT. Be seeing. Joker is too dark, Venom is just an indulgence in even more dark, and Deadpool is clever, true to form, but too vulgar for me, finally. I get their target audience. I'm not it. Good luck.
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Joker? No thanks.
Venom 3? Probably funny. will probably see it.
Deadpool 3? Only thing I'm hopeful will be good and see if Disney can pull a crowbar out of their ass long enough to make some money.
Would being close to the comics help? (Score:2)
Would making these movies more faithful to the way the characters are portrayed in the original comics help matters?
Aging out (Score:1)
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It depends on what you mean by "tropes".
If "tropes" means genres, then no, the tropes will never wear out.
There is a legacy of pop fiction beginning with the penny dreadfuls in England, through the dime novels in America, then the pulps, the comics, then the paperbacks, then modern graphic novels and video games. The same genres prevail in all of them - romance, frontier adventure, foreign adventure, crime-detectives, science fiction and future, cult of the hero, hero-in-disguise, et al. The tropes never
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Tired genre, poor writing (Score:2)
Genres come and go. The superhero genre has run its course. Poor writing hasn't helped. M-She-U, anybody? Ugh!
Give people something entertaining and they'll pay to watch it. Barbie and Oppenheimer weren't superhero movies. Nor was The Eras Tour. All three made a bundle.
...laura
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Good. I dislike that Jason Momoa dude. (Score:3)
Jason Momoa campaigned against the Thirty Meter Telescope. That is enough for me a get schadenfreude whenever shit fucks up for him.
It will become worse before it gets better. (Score:2)
This is what I want...
"a season" of movies that run parallel to each other, followed by a collab event, and then a conclusion film.
So let's say, Superman, Batman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman and a few others all have a film. Just a "Origin" film that concludes with jailing/sealing or defeat of the big-bad. All of these films take place in the same few months.
Then there is one, and ONLY one film where these group gets together. Arguably, the villains of the DC comics are more interesting than the Heroes. I'd say
Episodes in a TV show. (Score:2)
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Take a lesson from pop-fiction history (Score:5, Interesting)
A bit of history for those interested:
In the latter 1800's, popular periodical fiction in the U.S. was the "dime novels", derived in spirit from England's penny dreadfuls. Circa 1900, color printing became a reality, Sunday "funnies" became popular, and burgeoning working and urban classes created a demand for entertaining reading material on a budget. The dimes forked into two media, the pulps and the comics.
The pulps were the creation of publishing impresario Frank Munsey (1854-1925). Having had trials and tribulations in early publishing efforts, he had insights that revolutionized the magazine industry. By 1900, Munsey's had the highest circulation of any magazine in the world. But, he went a step further with the Argosy Magazine which debuted in 1896. His genius realized that working class people with modest discretionary cash did not buy quality books for their libraries. They wanted throwaway literature for incidental entertainment that was easy and fun to read without philosophy, politics, or pretentiousness, issued regularly like the dimes. He already knew that 25 cents an issue was too high, that 10 cents worked, but to be profitable, he would need high circulation printed cheaply without middlemen. He stated “Good writing is as common as clam shells, while good stories are as rare as statesmanship.” For his working class customers, the story was the value, not the tangible paper and ink. So, he printed on the cheapest pulp paper he could buy, sold direct to newsstands without distributors, and hired the best writers to contribute first rate stories. Some of America's finest writers contributed to the pulps, even if under pseudonyms. For 10 cents, people got hours worth of top notch entertainment, and millions of people were spending that dime. The pulps were a cultural and profitable phenomenon until the mid 1950's.
The comics likewise derived from the dimes, the picture dimes. They were like the pulps in spirit, but they were more oriented toward kids, and they used an illustrative approach to story telling. They also began circa 1900. At first, they were basically just the Sunday funnies cartoons bound into a throwaway magazine. But, they gradually transformed into graphical picture “novels” telling an original novella style story in each issue. What we now recognize as the true comics were developed around a theme or hero franchise beginning 1938 with DC Comics publishing Jerome Siegal's (writer) and Joseph Shuster's (artist) Superman. The next year, the format extended to crime noir and detective genres with Batman. Comic books rapidly became a robust industry and cornerstone of popular culture.
In 1980 or 1990, CGI special effects were "Wow". Now, they are taken for granted. Audiences have lost interest in pointless computer special effects, bored and burnt out. The classic comic book franchises had art staffs of just a few talented people turning out inspiring and beloved drawings and stories. Now, they have credits listing 100's or 1000's of digital "artist" drones who shaded a few polygons then cut-paste the same sprite 5000 times for a thoroughly uninspiring result. They make sound and action move so fast and loud that the action cannot be understood and the dialogue cannot be heard. Characters are dumbed down by the toy marketing department, and the stories-by-committee are all derivative and boring. No one cares anymore - it seems to me - but so it would seem for many as told in the low revenue numbers. I suspect that many people go to see their favorite franchise hoping for the best, but are then disappointed, which drives viewership even lower on the next release.
The franchise idiots at the big studios could take a lesson from their humble origins. If they made a simpler movie with fewer special effects and less pointless spectacle, but with a great story, great acting, perhaps ideally with new or unknown actors, made the scenes and story understandable - and, not to belabor the point, but had original great
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The fight scenes in movies are so drawn out and predictable that I always fast forward them. If I see something interesting that breaks up the "I hit you, you hit me, I hit you even harder" monotony I'll watch it then go back to the fast forwarding.
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Yeah especially in the superhero genre the big CGI set pieces are almost exhausting to watch, it's too much the worst offender being anything in the Snyder DC universe.
Would any of the big franchise comic (MCU, DCU) book movies make a top 10 of action movies? Top 20? Maybe "Winter Soldier" is the closest I can think of? I don't think any of them are better than say "The Dark Knight". They have their cool sequences but for me it all blends together into a mishmash of noise.
To me for all the billions of doll
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If you're doing that, then what's left? Are you watching comic book movies for the dialog?
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Excellent point.
Come up with some real movies (Score:2)
Squeezed this premise dry? (Score:3)
Person with superpowers, bad guys with superpowers, they have big CGI fights where they get smashed into walls and ledges, rockets blow up, rinse and repeat. There must be a giant computer cranking these out now.
Hollywood jinx (Score:2)
WATER movies
Highest grossing Hollywood movie of all time - Water movie: AVATAR
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This was the last movie in Snyder's lame duck DCEU ... Gunn is rebooting the whole thing so yeah, that's called a change of direction. DC has never been invested in much of anything. They've always bumblefuck through.
Hey Zaslav (Score:2)
We told you we didn't want to see Amber Heard in this. You HEARing us now?
Amber Turd (Score:2)
Who would have thunk it!!!!
What, postponing didn't help? (Score:2)
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The costume design for Mera. Everything else was forgettable. And nobody views that actress the same now.
Aquaman (Score:2)
Who the the hell greenlighted Aquaman movies?
I prefer... (Score:2)
the headline I saw:
"Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom floats to top of box office but flounders"
Sounds fishy to me..
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Where is the next Kissinger, Reagan, Thatcher, never mind Churchill?
Bro those are like 3.5 leaders who history has shown to be below average (Churchill out of wartime wasn't great). I am not even conservative but I could name better conservative leaders in history than those 3.
If that's who put on the pedestal of leadership, well, your political compass is off the mark. No wonder you think the world sucks, you've convinced yourself it is.
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And the vast majority of the country can't hear Thatcher's name without spitting.
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